How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

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How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by djalexclark » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:55 pm

Is there a way to recover a MIDI controller after a power lose or an accidental disconetion, while doing a live performing.

It happens with me for the following reasons:
1) A usb cable was disconnected while performing.
2) A sudden lose of power make me loose a controler.
3) A usb hub was defective.

It's very frustrating when you are performing and needs to go with just the laptop, does any one suffer the same issue?...

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Trent » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:00 pm

If the device still shows up under preferences you could uncheck/recheck Track and Remote. If that doesn't work the only way is to reopen Live.

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by #1thelark » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:02 pm

This is very frustrating indeed, Launchpad and many others require a Live-restart to get back to work. IIRC the only controller I have that does not need a restart is a Kenton Killamix Mini... I think that may have to do with the simple and compliant drivers.

I think a possible solution would be to feed the mididata coming from the controller via a virtual midiport into ableton... but that would require an external program that can receive the mididata from the controller and route it into ableton via Midiyoke/IAC, so maybe MidiOx or Bomes or so.

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Trent » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:09 pm

#1thelark wrote:This is very frustrating indeed, Launchpad and many others require a Live-restart to get back to work. The only controller I have that does not need a restart is a Kenton Killamix Mini... I think that may have to do with the simple and compliant drivers .

I think a possible solution would be to feed the mididata coming from the controller via a virtual midiport into ableton... but that would require an external program that can receive the mididata from the controller and route it into ableton via Midiyoke/IAC, so maybe MidiOx or Bomes or so.
+1

Here is a tutorial for Midi Routing to Renoise but it should work the same for Ableton if your on PC. This method may introduce Latency in your setup, but it would be a minimal impact.

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Radio Arcade » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:48 pm

treat yourself to a mac :)
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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by #1thelark » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:55 pm

Who needs cables anyway?
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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by v0ins315 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:23 pm

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by jonesonyou » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:54 pm

Radio Arcade wrote:treat yourself to a mac :)
Totally! one of the many reasons i made the switch. Also after asking tech support, Abes just blamed the issue on windowz, so the solution is get a macbook.

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:23 pm

be a mouth breathing Mac user

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or tighten down your cables. the extra $1k you'd spend on a Mac would buy a lot of these:

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Captain Johnson » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:30 pm

I know with an APC40 you can load a set then plug APC at any point and it will work after a sec of loading(I guess the Launchpad will do the same????). Never pulled the USB cable out mid set though.....wonder if any APC40 users out can confirm this??? 8O

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by jimdrake » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:46 pm

don't use windows at a gig and learn how to run cables.

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:13 pm

Captain Johnson wrote:I know with an APC40 you can load a set then plug APC at any point and it will work after a sec of loading(I guess the Launchpad will do the same????). Never pulled the USB cable out mid set though.....wonder if any APC40 users out can confirm this??? 8O
you can do that on a Mac, not in Windows.

can't confirm, I use a PC, I just read this forum, a lot. too much. waaaaay too much.
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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Captain Johnson » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:41 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
Captain Johnson wrote:I know with an APC40 you can load a set then plug APC at any point and it will work after a sec of loading(I guess the Launchpad will do the same????). Never pulled the USB cable out mid set though.....wonder if any APC40 users out can confirm this??? 8O
you can do that on a Mac, not in Windows.

can't confirm, I use a PC, I just read this forum, a lot. too much. waaaaay too much.

I know you do :wink: I read this forum more than post myself though! I felt my useless but non the less relevant post in this thread was worth a type!

in retrospect I guess I can just try unplugging my apc40 myself....... 8O here goes.......if it works Justice will be made up!!! :lol:

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by Captain Johnson » Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:48 am

I can confirm it's sound to unplug an APC40 mid set and plug it back in! Not advised for sure but had no probs on my MBP!!! 8O (I was pretty brave doing that research wasn't I ? :wink:)

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Re: How to recover a MIDI controller after a power drop down

Post by sporkles » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:08 pm

Captain Johnson wrote:I can confirm it's sound to unplug an APC40 mid set and plug it back in! Not advised for sure but had no probs on my MBP!!! 8O (I was pretty brave doing that research wasn't I ? :wink:)
Yes. We have an award for that kind of bravery over in the Lounge.

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