Panned sounds bypassing the limiter

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Ascension
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Panned sounds bypassing the limiter

Post by Ascension » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:11 pm

So, for some reason when I use the built in track panning on a channel in Ableton the sound coming out of that channel skips past the limiter (Ableton's limiter).

For instance, I have panning on a track with a drum rack and when I have my snare panning the limiter I have set doesn't do anything (it's set to -8db and the channel will go up to around -7.3db). It doesn't matter if the limiter is outside the whole rack or on just the snare sample. This also happens on a channel where I have impulse with a kick sample, it skips past the limiter when I pan the sound.

Anyone have any idea what's going on here? I have my kick and bass sent to a bus channel and that limiter still works when the sounds are panned, but I'd like to know what's going on or if anyone has had the same thing happen. Thanks!

I'm on windows 7, Ableton 8.2.

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Re: Panned sounds bypassing the limiter

Post by Ableton_David » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:40 pm

Do you have your Limiter set to "Stereo" or "L/R"?

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Re: Panned sounds bypassing the limiter

Post by Ascension » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:32 pm

It does the same thing whether the limiter is on stereo or L/R. When I put in a Utility before the Limiter and use that to pan the sound it works fine. I'd prefer to not add another fx in my chain though/this seems like a bug to me.

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Re: Panned sounds bypassing the limiter

Post by Ableton_David » Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:01 pm

The mixer pan control is applied post-FX - so, the audio is not processed through the Limiter after it has been panned. The two workarounds here would be either to use the Utility, as you've mentioned, or to have an extra track with the Limiter on it, and have the audio go through there - thus making the pan control pre-Limiter.

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