What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

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What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by TheLion1 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:01 pm

Ideally, i would like:

- an 8-16 channel mixer that I can plug into my computer
- to be able to record the audio going into the mixer
- assign empty channels to midi sounds
- assign knobs and fader and buttons to midi controls


My intentions are to use it as a production/live dub machine. SO dual use in the studio and on the stage. I'm looking to combine a few styles of music.

1. The live aspect of electronic music (think The Chemical Brothers), basically playing the electronic music live

2. Mixing in other peoples songs DJ style

3. Live dub mixing like in the old days


im pretty sure this is possible, especially considering I will be using Live. Any experiences would be helpful too. I don't wanna think about money right now, but rather what the best and most suitable equipment might be. The past few months I have been thinking of getting a APC40, and Novation Zero SL Mkii to go along with my Alesis Multimix 8. i think this combination would get the job done but i feel i could do better. Definately would still get the APC40 anyways tho.

Thanks in advance for all your help.

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by TheLion1 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:20 am

does the post/question make sense?

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by McQ714 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:48 am

well there was the Korg Zero 8 which would've been perfect but got mixed reviews on it's sound quality which ended it's production. it was the perfect mixer for Ableton Live. more along the lines of DJ mixers, there was the Korg Zero 4, which was also discontinued, and the still very much alive and kicking Xone mixers and i believe a couple of the newer pioneer mixers.

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by yush » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:26 am

allen and heath xone 4d +.............

expensive but close to ur need

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by TheLion1 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:56 am

McQ714 wrote:well there was the Korg Zero 8 which would've been perfect but got mixed reviews on it's sound quality which ended it's production. it was the perfect mixer for Ableton Live. more along the lines of DJ mixers, there was the Korg Zero 4, which was also discontinued, and the still very much alive and kicking Xone mixers and i believe a couple of the newer pioneer mixers.
yes, something along the lines of this would be awesome. but if the sound quality is bad do i want a used one?

any other suggestions?

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by McQ714 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:17 pm

i didn't say they sound bad. other people did. i can't tell you about the zero 8 because i don't have it, but the zero 4 sounds great to my ears. i got mine at first release and it's been pretty sweet. i'm even able to use it with a small 4 pin mini firewire port on my hp laptop. it's a bit buggy with 64-bit, though, and they have no plans of fixing that.

all that said.. it's really not a recording mixer as much as it is a club mixer. and as it's fairly large for a 4-channel dj mixer, it isn't very desktop friendly.

another mixer i have but don't use much because i have an RME interface now is the edirol m-16dx which is a decent little solution that does have some midi capability using Mackie protocol, i think, via the usb 2.0 output. it worked pretty well with Live from what i remember while using it. it's also discontinued, however, so i don't know that you'll find them very easily. i don't know why companies bail on good ideas so quickly.

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by rikhyray » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:06 pm

I like the simplicity of Paul Kalkenbrener stage setup - MBP with Live, two RME interfaces each channel goes separately to hardware mixer (Mackie), midi controller. I am thinking of going this way, it is better (more accurate) feel mixing with real mixer while midi controller is OK for FX etc. You dont have to always carry own mixer to gigs, most places have at least 16 channel mixer. Perhaps that is solution for you.

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by Brock » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:39 am

Get the Zero8. Discontinued or not, the mixer freakin' rocks and will meet all of your needs.

There is a 64 bit driver availble (put together by a user, not Korg) on the interweb for the zero series mixers, so search around the Korg forums if you get one of these mixers and use a 64 bit platform.

/my two cents

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Re: What is a good mixer that is A/D and midi capable?

Post by Khazul » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:46 am

+1 for separate audio i/f and mixer. Combination units usually end up involving multiple layers, or cant also be control surfaces etc.

Personally, I would be thinking APC40 + audio interface + some mixer depending on what you are doing. For me, APC40 for live, DJM-800 or similar DJ mixer for external mixing and NI audio 8 DJ from the computer for Live and Traktor to send to the mixer.

Otherwise this sound like what you need:
http://www.allen-heath.com/zed/zedr16

Apparently the faders can be switched to midi control.

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