Controlling VST's

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Analytik J
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Controlling VST's

Post by Analytik J » Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:48 pm

I am trying to figure out how to control VST's inside of ableton with my Oxygen 8 midi controller. I know how to control Ableton very well, but I can't control VST's with my midi controler in Live. In I am using Native Instruments tools like Reaktor, Kontakt and Vokator. Also, Antares Filter. Thanks in advance.

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Post by nadada » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:23 pm

I second that. I am trying to record the virtual instrument Korg Legacy, as well as the legacy effects. I cannot seem to get LIVE to remember my tweaks, especially in the effects window where you can assign two parameters to a small "circle" that you move around the window's field. I also cannot seem to control this via midi, only with the mouse. So it seems that I have to record these effects individually and save the files to audio. I want LIVE to automate this so that I can have a bunch of these effects and virtual instruments tweaks saved in LIVE. Can this be done? What am I doing wrong? Please help! Thanks in advance! :?: :!:

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Post by hoffman2k » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:27 pm

You cannot assign midi cc's by selecting it in the vst interface.
You have to expand the view in Live's parameter viewer. There you can select and assign midi to a parameter.

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Post by nadada » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:45 pm

Cool. I'll try it. Will LIVE then "remember" actions that I commit via midi? I assume so. I'll check it out tonight. Thanks!!!

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Post by Lowride » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:04 pm

I'm having the same problem.

With Antares Filter, I want to be able to control the frequency of a filter by using my UC33. I have looked at the ableton, and antares manuals, but still can't get it to work like I expect...

HELP PLEASE - IT'S DOING MY BOX IN!!!!!

Lowride

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Post by czechchap » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:25 pm

as the hoffman says if you look at the live vst instrument in the track view above the "black box with the green circle" you will see a little button which looks like a play button, press it and tell me what happens
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Post by Lowride » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:51 am

Yeah - Ive tried that - clicked on the spanner icon to open up the Antares Filter GUI. Obviously from within here I can edited by click/drag with the mouse - I want to assign knob 31 to control Filter 1s frequency whilst usi. I tried this procedure last night...

1) Assigned knob 31 of UC33 to midi channel 1.
2) Assigned knob 31 to send data concerning midi control number 10 (I think it was 10 anyway - whatever is listed as being Pan in the Advanced User guide.
3) Opened Midi Set Up in Antares Filter - Set up filter 1 to be controlled by Midi channel 1.
4) In Modulation matrix selected at position 1 in the matrix, Filter 1 frequency to be controlled by Midi Pan.

After all this, Is till couldn't get it to work. Where is the MIDI LEARN feature??? That would be class...

So - where am I going wrong??? Or better still can anyone give me a blow by blow of how I go about setting this up???

Cheers

Lowride

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Post by czechchap » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:28 am

Lowride,

Not the spanner icon, the play icon beside it. Try it for me and let me know what happens.
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Post by Lowride » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:30 pm

I'll try tonight.

Let you know...

Lowride

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Post by Rondo » Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:10 pm

here is a trick i found this week end
for a vsti without the button expand avalaible

1 create a midi part (exmidi1)
draw an enveloppe...

2 assign this midi part (1) to midi2
by the routing menu

3 load your vsti to the midi 2, play your notes melodies etc...
open the vsti screen right click to midi learn

and voila it moves :)
simple

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Post by Lowride » Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:03 pm

Rondo, this could be quite interesting...

I actually tried to do somthing like this last night, but didn't quite know what I was doing. It sounds like it could do the trick...

Lowride

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Post by Lowride » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:06 pm

AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Can't believe I didn't manage to spot that!!!!!!

czechchap, your a lifesaver!!!!!

Still can't believe I didn't f*cking spot it. Cheers though guys. Much appreciated...

Lowride

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Post by czechchap » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:43 pm

glad to be of service :)
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nice

Post by funkbo » Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:25 am

i just "discovered" this today myself! thought i was gonna have to make a preset for each thing with my controllers software. i share in the joy!!!
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