setting up a rack for spreading sound

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setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by RoCi » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:00 am

is there a way to set up a rack to use the M/S spreading technique?

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by Yoseph » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:49 am

By M/S, do you mean mid-side recording technique?

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by merges » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:31 pm

Yes. There are quite a few blog posts on the subject. But briefly: Create an audio effects rack with two chains. Both chains should have a Utility. Set width of first chains Utility to 0 (that is your mid) and width of second to 200% (that's your side). You could alternatively split your side into separate L/R but the above technique is a simple approach.

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by RoCi » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:57 pm

Yoseph wrote:By M/S, do you mean mid-side recording technique?
yeah.

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by RoCi » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:58 pm

merges wrote:Yes. There are quite a few blog posts on the subject. But briefly: Create an audio effects rack with two chains. Both chains should have a Utility. Set width of first chains Utility to 0 (that is your mid) and width of second to 200% (that's your side). You could alternatively split your side into separate L/R but the above technique is a simple approach.
what are some blogs?

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by siliconarc » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:59 pm

or use EQ8 in MS mode


merges wrote:You could alternatively split your side into separate L/R
you sure about that?

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by merges » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:27 am

Re: splitting S of M/S; yea, you can get the first split to M/S then work with the resulting L/R of the S channel.

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by RoCi » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:07 pm

what i did is i had a distorted synth, on the left i have the orginal sound for say, and the right i have the same sound just an octave higher. i group them and add the M/s technique on the group track?

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by merges » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:53 am

I don't think I understand.

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by RoCi » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:34 pm

merges wrote:I don't think I understand.
ok another example i have a simple little synth line, i pan that to the left, then i record the same synth line just an octave higher and i pan that to right, then i group them and add a audio effect rack and have two chains each will have utility. one at 0% the other at 200%. is there a better way to spread the sound better?

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by merges » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:40 am

Well, what you described, in terms of doubling a synth melody, is one way of "spreading" sound. There are many ways: Short delays and other timed effects (phasing, flanging, chorus), EQing left and right channels differently, panning effects, etc.

But mid/side processing itself is distinct from and not necessarily related to spreading sound effects. You can use the technique to split your audio signal into a mid channel and a side channels. That in and of itself doesn't affect the "spread" of your sound. But by taking that M/S and then playing with the audio (using EQ, effects, delays, etc.) on either or both mid and side channels, you can affect the perceived stereo effect.

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Re: setting up a rack for spreading sound

Post by fonnovo » Wed May 04, 2011 3:26 am

stereo field eq also helps

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