lost in plugin jungle

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radiance
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lost in plugin jungle

Post by radiance » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:32 pm

Hi there

I need a set of plugins to process all the sounds I record from my external synth. That means, dynamics, reverb, delays, filters...
I don't want to be limited with too few plugins nor lost with too many plugins.
The challengers are:
*soundhack plugins
*ohmforce plugins
* PSP plugins
* voxengo plugins
* sonalksis plugins
* elemental audio plugins
* izotope plugins

What would your advice be? What EQ should I choose? What compressor?
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Post by AdamJay » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:55 pm

out of all of those, i think the best investment you could make is PSP Vintage Warmer. it sounds great on individual sounds, and great on the mix (in moderation).

as far as reverbs and delays, you have enough cpu to use the Ableton reverb on the "First Class" quality setting, i think its an excellent reverb. i'd pay for it if it wasn't included. (if you want more presets on it to show you a few more things,... download the tacklebox demo at www.trackteamaudio.com)

Delay... Analogic Delay is a freebie and its another that i'd happily pay for. While its more for dub styled delays, you can get more than just dubbed out delays out of it. http://www.interruptor.ch/vst_overview.shtml
also check out their Bionic delay, its an enhanced version of Analogic delay that gives you seperate controls for right and left channels. and they are free.

another set of plugins that is worth buying is the TC Native 3.1 collection. awesome delays, eqs, reverbs, compressors, and i love the filtrator. it goes for about $199 USD

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Post by PrOgReSS » Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:46 pm

As far as dynamics go I would look into some Voxengo! They've got some very smoothing sounding plugins in my opinon. I haven't heard too much about the Soundhack stuff but they sure do LOOK interesting. :roll:
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Post by radiance » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:10 pm

bump!
c'mon guys, dont be shy...
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Post by ashley_k » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:22 am

OK I’ll give a second vote for PSP Vintage Warmer.

Even though I use my TC Powercore PCI cards effects most of the time, I still use the TC Native 3.1 bundle a lot, it has a nice compressor with a side chain, the plugins are CPU efficient as well.
The only bad news is that TC in their infinite wisdom have now discontinued the TC Native 3.1 bundle – they are still supporting it at the moment.
Even so I would still recommend that you get the TC Native 3.1 Bundle, just don’t expect to see many updates in the future.

I still make good use of the effects included with Live, plus the extra presets form Tacklebox (TrackTeam).

From Elemental Audio get the Inspector plugin it’s free and a very handy meter/analysis tool.
http://www.elementalaudio.com/

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Post by supster » Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:00 am

After demoing a lot of alternates, Ive settled on these:

Wave Arts Trackplug: main EQ, compression tweaks. CPU efficient
and great qualtiy

Wave Arts Masterverb: main reverb, CPU efficient very good qualtiy

PSP Vintagewarmer: drum warmth, acrost the mix lite tape

Sonalkisis Compressor: hi quality compression for specialized stuff

BBE Sonic Maximizer: drums, mix

Bionic Delay: special tape delay fx

PSP Nitro: bad-ass filter, ureal

Spacemaster Stereo (Reaktor): specialty hi-quality reverb

... a few other Reaktor effects and specialty delays here and there ..
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Post by ekko » Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:08 am

AdamJay wrote:another set of plugins that is worth buying is the TC Native 3.1 collection. awesome delays, eqs, reverbs, compressors, and i love the filtrator. it goes for about $199 USD

Wow...I thought I was the only person left using this set!

It's a shame that TC has discontinued this set. I love these and use them on everything.

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Post by 12micsn1 » Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:31 pm

1 PSP is well spoken for by many an myself. Highly recommended.
2 Elemental are high quality an come as a bundle an I would recommend these.
3 Sonakiss high quality will cost you some money but will compliment Elemental nicely.
4 Izotope I read had strong reviews an is very versatile. on my demo list
5 Soundhack are a lesser known plug in company but people like BT seem to be impress with. Very Ableton like GUI they also offer there plugins as a bundle.
6 Voxengo has tons of plugin that are good but PC only no Mac support at the moment. I wish I could get these on my MAC Voxengo. It may come down to me getting PC.

Prosoniq makes some high quality plugs that Im surprise to hear less of lately. Morph and Warp are ultra creative but on the expensive side.

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Post by Nick Maxwell » Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:41 pm

I use PSP VintageWarmer for most things. I am going to pick up their filter as well. You will be hard pressed to beat the warmth of their plugins for that price.

- Nick

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Post by krusty » Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:41 pm

Two fave Freebies (mac or PC):

North Pole Filter:

http://www.prosoniq.net/html/freebies.html

L1 Clone:

http://www.yohng.com/w1limit.html

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Post by udenjoe » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:15 pm

I like the PSPs as well. Their 42 and 84 delays are great as well. I haven't used them in a while.

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Post by elemental » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:38 pm

Ohmboyz for delay everytime!!

Waves plugs are v comprehensive, but come with a comprehensive price tag also...

Been using eqium a lot recently, nice eq.

Check out BLOCKFISH for a free high quality compressor plug.

PSP - everything they do is quality.

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Post by radiance » Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:37 pm

Damn! You guys are evil, I have even more plugins to try now! 8O
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Post by supster » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:32 pm

radiance wrote:Damn! You guys are evil, I have even more plugins to try now! 8O
yeah .. there are certain ones that keep coming up over and over with
a lot of people, usually those are worth taking pretty seriously
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Post by AdamJay » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:37 pm

ekko wrote:
Wow...I thought I was the only person left using this set!

It's a shame that TC has discontinued this set. I love these and use them on everything.
just because its discontinued doesn't mean i'll move on to something else. at least not till something better comes out. The filtrator has one of the smoothest LFO's i've ever used, and the Saturation on the filtrator makes for a nice cpu light saturator on most vst synths. i doubt i'll ever use another graphic EQ than TC either.

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