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I just started playing with the Groove function again and I am getting something strange going on with Groove.

For example when I use the following two settings (I haven't tested them all, just these two)
SP1200 54
SP1200 58

After I apply the Groove, I am seeing really weird volume envelopes on my clips.

WHY?

Is this a glitch? Is this intentional?

I don't understand why it would be intentional, if for these two templates their intention is to emulate the SP1200 on 54% and 58% swing, it should shift the notes, I don't understand why it would affect the volume (b/c it doesn't on the real SP1200)

Anyone have any insight onto this?

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Set velocity setting of the groove to zero and your problem is solved.

Awesome, I will try that.

But...

Even still...

My other question:

if their intention is to emulate the SP1200 on 54% and 58% swing, why would it affect the volume (b/c it doesn't on the real SP1200)?

I suppose that the velocity 'template' was added as a bonus.
That way you can get more human feel even when you program the patterns in step sequencer style with fixed velocities.

I always zero the setting because I rather patterns myself and just add some (~50%) quantization and timing to tighten up the groove so that it still sounds human.

jussi.saarelainen wrote:I suppose that the velocity 'template' was added as a bonus.
That way you can get more human feel even when you program the patterns in step sequencer style with fixed velocities.

Then why make it an SP1200 template?

It doesn't make sense...

In reality, who cares

Thanks for the info everyone.