Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

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erikomic
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Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

Post by erikomic » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:48 am

Hey eveyone.
I've been mapping my novation MkII to lot of things in ableton.
I've mapped a slider to CC32 but it's missing in the "automation box" in the clip enveloppe section ?
Uh ? 8O

Is this a bug :mrgreen: or a specific purpose ? :?:

Well, if anyone as a clue ?


And plus, if you'd be so kind to tell if there is a way to control those "automation" into the timeline view (not just on the clip)

In advance many ThanXX!

rdevries
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Re: Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

Post by rdevries » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:59 pm

never noticed this, Google reveals CC32 is used for sending Bank LSB.

erikomic
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Re: Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

Post by erikomic » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:43 am

Hum Thanx.
Bank LSB ? (this has to do with Lower bit sumthing)
So it's missing for real ! :?

Oh by the way > ecofriendly alternative to google > http://ecosia.org/index.php :wink:

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Re: Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

Post by the0verclock » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:41 pm

Yea. Technically a patch change is a three part event -

CC#0 - Most Significant Bit (MSB)
CC#32 - Least Significant Bit (LSB)
PC - Program Change

This is mostly to allow for bank select at the same time as patch select. But I think that 99% of the time CC#32 is set to 0 unless you are accessing bank number 20,000 or something.

- b (MIDI nerd)

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Re: Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

Post by Muzik 4 Machines » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:36 pm

actually cc 0 mostly stay 0 and cc 32 changes every 128 PC

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Re: Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

Post by the0verclock » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:20 pm

Muzik 4 Machines wrote:actually cc 0 mostly stay 0 and cc 32 changes every 128 PC
That sounds logical.

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Re: Why is CC32 missing from the "envelopp" section in clips ?

Post by erikomic » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:36 am

hey thanx guys for the highlighting explanations :)

so I guess if i want to map things logically 8 by 8 (as in most machines)

1-8
9-16
17-24
25-33
then skip this motherfreaking cc32
and continue
34-41
42-49
50-57...
this is weird... but hey why not
or are there any other surprises ?
:mrgreen:

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