6/8VS4/4. Is there a problem in time signature indication ?
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:09 pm
Hello hello !
I often work with ternary measures.
Using Live I have a small problem
on the time indication for ternary measures in both clip or arrangement view.
My music theory can be wrong but are we ok on this point:
a 4/4 time signature is a 4 time quarter note in a measure
//: 1 2 3 4 ://
a 6/8 time signature is ternary because the quarter note is divided in 3 eighth notes (triplet) and not in 2 eighth notes and there is 2 time in a measure.
//: (123) (123) ://
If we superimpose the two measures at the same tempo:
4/4 = //: 1-------2-------3-------4 ://
6/8 = //: (1-2-3)(1-2-3) ://
A 4/4 bar measure is exactely two time longer than a 6/8 measure.
So In Live do the same: you create a Midi clip, you change the time signature to 6/8 and you create notes following time indication (1_1.2_1.3_..._1.6).
After you create a second 4/4 midi clip, create notes on quarter
Superimpose clips in arrangement view, you will observe that the theory is not respected...the 6/8 clip is equal to a 3/4 clip long ...And the metronome is false too...because the clic is on eighth notes and note on triple eighth notes...
Can someone explain me this ?
I know that you can write a good 6/8 timing clip by changing the 1/8 binary grid in the 1/8T ternary grid. But the time indication ruler stay wrong
and workin on the polyrhythmic rapidly become tiring ...
I often work with ternary measures.
Using Live I have a small problem
on the time indication for ternary measures in both clip or arrangement view.
My music theory can be wrong but are we ok on this point:
a 4/4 time signature is a 4 time quarter note in a measure
//: 1 2 3 4 ://
a 6/8 time signature is ternary because the quarter note is divided in 3 eighth notes (triplet) and not in 2 eighth notes and there is 2 time in a measure.
//: (123) (123) ://
If we superimpose the two measures at the same tempo:
4/4 = //: 1-------2-------3-------4 ://
6/8 = //: (1-2-3)(1-2-3) ://
A 4/4 bar measure is exactely two time longer than a 6/8 measure.
So In Live do the same: you create a Midi clip, you change the time signature to 6/8 and you create notes following time indication (1_1.2_1.3_..._1.6).
After you create a second 4/4 midi clip, create notes on quarter
Superimpose clips in arrangement view, you will observe that the theory is not respected...the 6/8 clip is equal to a 3/4 clip long ...And the metronome is false too...because the clic is on eighth notes and note on triple eighth notes...
Can someone explain me this ?
I know that you can write a good 6/8 timing clip by changing the 1/8 binary grid in the 1/8T ternary grid. But the time indication ruler stay wrong
and workin on the polyrhythmic rapidly become tiring ...