What is The Fastest Powerbook equal to on a PC laptop

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 7:27 am

does anybody know

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 8:31 am

What application are you running?

x86 and PPC are two different processor sets that are good at solving two different sets of problems, so the answer really depends on what you're doing.

Roughly speaking, a 1 GHz PPC processor is equivalent -- very roughly -- to a 1.8 to 2 Ghz Pentium IV. Hardware optimizations help improve this ratio to more like 1:3.

When a program isn't optimized and is written poorly, PPC suffers badly. That ratio drops to 1:1, roughly.

-Alex

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:18 am

thanks man, i bet alot of platform crapwars could be avoided if people like myself would ask simple questions like that and people like you would give simple straight answers like that. thanks.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:39 am

I agree with Alex. It depends on what you wanna do with it. I use 3 platforms OS9, OSX and XP. OS9 I use for apps not yet available for OSX, like Max/MSP, Pro Tools. OSX I use when I need stability, for instance the free VJ software KeyStroke. And XP I use for software which does not run on macs (and probably never will), like Sound Forge. I noticed that not choosing just one platform and flaming the other enables me to achieve certain goals faster and turn ideas into results faster. It's all about creativity. You don't need the fastest computers. Just combine what you have and see what comes out of it.

Just my 2 cents.

Maxim · Post by **Maxim** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 10:40 am

oops. forgot to login again.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:46 pm

hey maxim, where can one get keystroke?

-SongCarver

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 3:53 pm

found it on versiontracker cheers,

-SongCarver.

jazze · Post by **jazze** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 3:40 am

Hi Maxim,
what is your impression of a Key stroke so fare since you have the chance to beta test it .. i went on their site and could not get what it exactly does with audio and video..
Is it something like Arkaos VJ ?

Maxim · Post by **Maxim** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:19 am

Well, it's very experimental software. Basically it can combine every type of digital media and morph it into something else. It has a very friendly both futuristic user interface. But you just have to try. It's worth the experience. Just apply to be a beta tester...wait for the confirmation and download the beta. And remember: it's a dutch product!

FORMAT · Post by **FORMAT** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:00 am

Hey Alex Reynolds,

thanx very much for this info... I've ordered my Ti today.

Cheers,
format

Beaker · Post by **Beaker** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 12:49 pm

> Roughly speaking, a 1 GHz PPC processor is equivalent --
> very roughly -- to a 1.8 to 2 Ghz Pentium IV. Hardware
> optimizations help improve this ratio to more like 1:3.

Perhaps most technically remarkable is how this ratio seems to
grow even faster than Intel's advantage in clockspeed!!!!

(Is one allowed to mention hardware optimizations for x86?)

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Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:53 pm

Perhaps most technically remarkable is how this ratio seems to
grow even faster than Intel's advantage in clockspeed!!!!

(Is one allowed to mention hardware optimizations for x86?)

Sure, if you can find any mainstream applications that take advantage of it, other than perhaps Photoshop.

Find some numbers that show this comparison is incorrect. Else you're just trolling.

-Alex

beaker · Post by **beaker** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 7:46 pm

Alex Reynolds wrote: Find some numbers that show this comparison is incorrect. Else you're just trolling.

uh.. why do i have to do the homework?
two of these 3 sites are explicitly mac oriented..

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002 ... cvspc2.htm
+summary from an appl fan cite:
http://www.aapltalk.com/shootouts/processor_notes.html

http://www.barefeats.com/pentium4.html

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Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:42 pm

1) The first site is run by a self-admitted anti-Mac zealot running tests of After Effects, an application which has yet to be optimized by Adobe, probably in retaliation for FCP. Furthermore there are no specifications posted for his test environment. So in all likelihood he is purposefully comparing machines with two disparate configurations.

2) The second site shows a 1:1.5 ratio for general purpose tasks.

If you enhance code for Altivec, this ratio widens dramatically, to about 1:3. Feel free to subscribe to or google-search Apple's sci-tech mailing list for numbers reported by third-party developers.

3) The third site offers no numbers but tests various applications, which is more useful to someone making a purchase decision.

So...

Given I already said all of this is conditional, if you're not trolling, what is your point, exactly?

Frankly, I would much rather discuss ways to make Live run faster and more stable on the platform I use. If you prefer to use Wintel, go right ahead.

-Alex

astromass · Post by **astromass** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:05 pm

any link for the keystroke app listed above? any info on this app? thanks, +()Dd

What is The Fastest Powerbook equal to on a PC laptop

What is The Fastest Powerbook equal to on a PC laptop

thanks Alex

keystroke