Which way to wire....?

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Which way to wire....?

Post by taffmonster » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:55 pm

OK, so my set up has grown,. Today I bought an accordion and a KP3 on a wim and well I feel like I need to arrange my studio but no idea where to what put everything and so on.
I'm running out of usb ports and and audio points so I need to kinda neaten things up. Also Im not sure How i put my new KP3 into the mix. Any advice?

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Macbook Pro (usb x 2, Firwire x 1)
Edirol FA-66 (firewire)
APC40
Axion 49
Mic (AT2035)
Guitar and Bass
M-Audio Monitors
Maschine Mikro
KP3
iPad running lemur and kapture pad and other soft synths (animoog etc)

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Re: Which way to wire....?

Post by savyurrecords » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:29 pm

In order to integrate the KP3 with your setup you would need at least 1 output (preferrably 2) and at least 1 input (again preferrably 2)

If not just plug the accordion into the kp3 and become the first dubstep polka master!

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Re: Which way to wire....?

Post by taffmonster » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:46 pm

Considering there is already violin dubstep ( http://youtu.be/aHjpOzsQ9YI )
I don't think accordion dubstep can do much to compete. I don't have her sexy moves for one.

In terms of ins and outs I have some options but I'm not sure whats best. The KP3 and Axiom both have traditional midi out The axiom also has USB, as I'm low on USB inputs I thought running the axiom via midi instead of using a USB hub might be better as I have heard USB uses CPU and I would like to have a non laggy set up if at all possible.

The FA 66 has 4 inputs (2x 1/4 inch or XLR) and two RCA inputs on the back (theres also S/Pdif but I don't have any S/Pdif gear).

I think I would like the KP3 as an effects send for ableton or at least the option do that.
I want the APC for launching clips and tweaking sounds, lemur for generative midi stuff and Kapture for its morphing abilities and then Maschine as a live sampler and drum machine.

What I was thinking would be very cool was to have the KP3 on an effect send and return set up ('not that I quite know how to do it) and then route audio from, for example, Maschine only to the KP3 and then back in.

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Re: Which way to wire....?

Post by taffmonster » Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:04 pm

No ideas ?

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Re: Which way to wire....?

Post by scrondle » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:32 pm

Get RCA cables, put 1/4" jacks on one side, plug those into your 3 & 4 (stereo left and right) on the back of your card, then put corresponding cables into your KP3 inputs, then route the KP3 outputs the same way, into your card's 1 & 2 inputs (needed for stereo).
Click your KP3's notch at the back to 'Send'.
On a 'Return' track, insert 'External Audio Effect' from 'Audio Effects', choose inputs 1/2, outputs 3/4, start sending shit to it, and enjoy.
Without more inputs you can't use the KP3 along with the mic, bass, etc, unless you throw them one at a time through the KP3's mic-jack (actually, your mic is a condenser. Think that needs phantom-power that the KP3 can't provide, so unless you wanna buy a nice preamp for that nice mic, record vox, add fx later).

Edit: sorry, very tired, missed that your card has RCA inputs on the back, I'd put your KP3's output into this, and change the ExtAudEff's inputs to 3&4, now you can have everything plugged in.

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Re: Which way to wire....?

Post by taffmonster » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:12 am

Thank you very much. As for the usb situation does it make a difference using a hub ?

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Re: Which way to wire....?

Post by oblique strategies » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:36 am

You may have seen this already, but if you're interested in ideas for the physical setup of your gear & studio check this out:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... &hilit=cat

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Re: Which way to wire....?

Post by scrondle » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:12 pm

taffmonster wrote:Thank you very much. As for the usb situation does it make a difference using a hub ?
It does. Use a powered USB hub, otherwise you'll have issues with power at some point or another, if you expand your gear-list. You've only three to plug in at the mo' though, so you'll be fine for a while.
Here's a great one, which a lot of us gearslutz use.
Edit: OUT OF STOCK! Oh man. Not my weekend for internetting.
Here?

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