Is there a way to create an ADSR for midi events (0-127) instead of audio? The Object in Max4Live is audio only and I can't figure out how to convert the output to control parameters such as track volume.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Bhang
HELP Trying to make an ADSR output midi data, not audio
Re: HELP Trying to make an ADSR output midi data, not audio
OK ... I'm getting further but still have a lot of issues.
Sorry - Just fixed one of the issues. Now the ADSR works as expected but it is so slow !!! Can't possibly play fast rhythms with this. Anyone know what I can do to make the ADSR react faster?
Here is my patch so far.
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</code></pre>
oh yeah, I replaced the control going to the mixer track 1 level with an assignable area. I thought maybe it had to do with lives mixer but its just as sluggish using it with a plugin.
Thanks-
Bhang
Sorry - Just fixed one of the issues. Now the ADSR works as expected but it is so slow !!! Can't possibly play fast rhythms with this. Anyone know what I can do to make the ADSR react faster?
Here is my patch so far.
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</code></pre>
oh yeah, I replaced the control going to the mixer track 1 level with an assignable area. I thought maybe it had to do with lives mixer but its just as sluggish using it with a plugin.
Thanks-
Bhang
Re: HELP Trying to make an ADSR output midi data, not audio
Be aware that the Live API doesn't operate strictly in real time.
In particular, live.remote~ introduces latency depending on Live's audio buffer size.
So the attack phase of adsr~ may be received later than the note message for the instrument.
In particular, live.remote~ introduces latency depending on Live's audio buffer size.
So the attack phase of adsr~ may be received later than the note message for the instrument.
Re: HELP Trying to make an ADSR output midi data, not audio
Thanks for the info,
I do know that it is not real time and is dependent on the audio driver buffer size, but this was real real sluggish. Oddly enough when I loaded it up today and tried it on the main volume of a soft synth ( fabfilters Twin) and it worked a lot better. I guess there must have been some strangeness going on and a reboot fixed it. I am having another strange issue albeit cosmetic only. Why do all my patches show cables in Lives plugin window? Strange, but I can not get them to go away. No matter what I do, there are always cables coming out of all the devices.
At any rate, I am slowly getting closer to making my first real M4L patch.
Thanks for the information,
Bhang
I do know that it is not real time and is dependent on the audio driver buffer size, but this was real real sluggish. Oddly enough when I loaded it up today and tried it on the main volume of a soft synth ( fabfilters Twin) and it worked a lot better. I guess there must have been some strangeness going on and a reboot fixed it. I am having another strange issue albeit cosmetic only. Why do all my patches show cables in Lives plugin window? Strange, but I can not get them to go away. No matter what I do, there are always cables coming out of all the devices.
At any rate, I am slowly getting closer to making my first real M4L patch.
Thanks for the information,
Bhang
Re: HELP Trying to make an ADSR output midi data, not audio
Regarding the cables: In edit mode go to View > Patcher Inspector and check 'Open in Presentation'.
Re: HELP Trying to make an ADSR output midi data, not audio
THANK YOU !!! I've got this thing working pretty good. I just need to get the velocity ranges right and I have a pretty interesting velocity controlled switcher/ adsr.- Bhang
Re: HELP Trying to make an ADSR output midi data, not audio
OK ... I have this pupy working about as good as I can expect. The only thing I'm missing is for it to recall my settings automatically when I reload a Live set. I searched these forums and found nothing that refers specifically to this, so I'm wondering if it even possible. Is there a way to autosave parameters like Live does with all other VST/ AU & internal plugins, so I don't have to make presets before I shut down each time?
Here is my patch so far if anyone wants to check it out. I will post it on MaxforLive.com when I have everything working the way I want.
Thanks for the help
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-Bhang
Here is my patch so far if anyone wants to check it out. I will post it on MaxforLive.com when I have everything working the way I want.
Thanks for the help
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</code></pre>
-Bhang