G5 and Latency...a nightmare...

Eraldo Bernocchi · Post by **Eraldo Bernocchi** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:27 am

It seems there's no way I can set the overall latency for Live 4.1...well actually all Live version have problems on my G5 dp 1.8ghz and Digi oo2R. :?: :?: :?:

This is really weird as my 867 powerbook has no problem at all but the g5 is simply making me mad. I'm a Live user since version 1 and all went great until one year ago when i got the g5.
i didn't noticed it since day one as i was using Live for composing but lately i started to use it to process live stuff in real time and recording...a nightmare.

Does anyone have an idea about it? I've been through the all latency setting process countless times...

Thanks

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:31 am

Try out the new update Live 4.1.1
Ableton fixed some issue's regarding overall latency.

cheers

Eraldo Bernocchi · Post by **Eraldo Bernocchi** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:49 pm

txs hoffmann...already tried it...no way.

onnomon · Post by **onnomon** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:50 pm

I have a similar issue, there seems to be at least a 35 msec delay between an external signal input and Live shuffling this over to the outputs. This is using an RME Multiface (via cardbus) to my 1GHz G4 Powerbook. There was another post mentioning that the latency settings in the audio preferences are only active when monitoring is in "Auto" mode though. However I tend to use external inputs for more on-the-fly processing and will typically use it in the Monitor "On" state.

I don't think it's a G5 issue per se.

-dz

Eraldo Bernocchi · Post by **Eraldo Bernocchi** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:41 am

Thanks guys for suggestions.
It's weird anyway. Especially when you try to record something. ie guitars or whatever. I now know i have to move the clip start
by 48ms...which is a lot of delay by the way.

hopefully they'll fix it soon as working in this way is really upsetting.

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:20 pm

WHAT! 48ms!!! when using it with a RME is totaly not acceptable. I am planning on going to a dual 1.8 G5 because i cant live with windows anymore. But the more i read about ableton live and mac the more I am getting angry with ableton. Can you emagin if you bought a soft synth and the delay was 48ms?!?! unusable. I can handle settings as long as 11ms but longer than that and it gets to be anoying.

What are the plans Ableton?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:58 pm

48ms? no way
I can get as low as to 2 a 3ms with the built in spdif.

Did you setup your latency as described in the manual?

Eraldo Bernocchi · Post by **Eraldo Bernocchi** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:35 pm

I did it and re-did it so many times.
never happened with other versions.
actually i'm suspecting that this is a digidesign issue.
today i'll use my emagic 2/6 usb and see if it does the same
stuff or not. if it does it it's Live and G5 if not it's that bloody 002R.

the adventure continues...

thanks guys

PS and regarding ableton and mac...well i really hope they'll do something because i can use SX with loads of plugs and instruments
and Live can handle 30% less...no comment.

feindbild · Post by **feindbild** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:28 am

Eraldo Bernocchi wrote: if it does it it's Live and G5<snip>

similar issues here.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:44 am

Eraldo Bernocchi wrote:I did it and re-did it so many times.
never happened with other versions.
actually i'm suspecting that this is a digidesign issue.
today i'll use my emagic 2/6 usb and see if it does the same
stuff or not. if it does it it's Live and G5 if not it's that bloody 002R.

I'll bet it's the oo2R, let us know. I'm going to be able to buy a single 1.8 G5 for dirt cheap, so I'm curious?

Eraldo Bernocchi · Post by **Eraldo Bernocchi** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:01 am

tried with emagic 2/6 and all is quite smooth.
there's always a little difference of 1/2ms even after setting up the whole thing.
with 002r the situation is as usual.
weird because using SX I have no problem at all. I did some tests
with SX and all was perfect so it's Live AND the 002.

Will keep you updated.

Txs

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:30 am

Eraldo Bernocchi wrote:I did some tests
with SX and all was perfect so it's Live AND the 002.

Will keep you updated.

Txs

Well the 002 has really crappie drivers, it's a Digidesign thing, so SX must be able to work with it better, that's all.

3phase · Post by **3phase** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:49 pm

Machinesworking wrote:
Eraldo Bernocchi wrote:I did some tests
with SX and all was perfect so it's Live AND the 002.

Will keep you updated.

Txs
Well the 002 has really crappie drivers, it's a Digidesign thing, so SX must be able to work with it better, that's all.

sure... its very often the combination with some crappy drivers and Live...
Live is so..so ...so sensetiv
However OSX is still doing funny things aswell

John Daminato · Post by **John Daminato** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:07 pm

Eraldo Bernocchi wrote: PS and regarding ableton and mac...well i really hope they'll do something because i can use SX with loads of plugs and instruments
and Live can handle 30% less...no comment.

Being a Live 4.1 user and Cubase SX 2.1 I feel it's unfair to compare what live does to audio in real time Vs what Cubase does. I have live issues as well, but for time stretching in real time, do you know a better app? Actually SX 3.0 supposely could do what live does, I have yet to upgrade to see how true this is?

atomic · Post by **atomic** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:08 am

Thanks for saying that. I know from looking at the benchmark page that pc's are running ableton faster than macs but compairing live to other DAWs is just not a good compairison. Live is set up to be used Live go figure and i have to asume that it takes a higher overhead to have fast responses to your actions. The hole ableton is a cpu pig thing is getting tired IMOP. BUT on the other hand ableton has to get on the dual cpu shit ASAP as that is just bad use of resorces. If you are going to make a program that is CPU heavy that is fine just design it so it can be used with computers that are set up for heavy use. Thats my bag

Being a Live 4.1 user and Cubase SX 2.1 I feel it's unfair to compare what live does to audio in real time Vs what Cubase does. I have live issues as well, but for time stretching in real time, do you know a better app? Actually SX 3.0 supposely could do what live does, I have yet to upgrade to see how true this is?[/quote]