Push and Deuteranomaly

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botstein
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Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by botstein » Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:23 pm

Hey everyone,

Has anyone else with any type of colorblindness taken a look at the pictures and video of Push? I was surprised that I could see so many colours on my new Maschine hardware (11/16), despite being able to see fewer in the ads online. Other devices, like the APCs and MPCs, don't appear in colour to me at all (red/green = useless to about seven percent of men).


Also, there have been a few posts on this forum which have been very helpful, especially in helping me find use for the APC40's colour feedback - thank you for these!
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[csk]
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Re: Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by [csk] » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:16 pm

Hey,

I'm a developer at Ableton and worked on the color management of Push. Being colorblind myself (quite strong red/green), I am very happy with the colors.

I clearly see the 3 split parts in the step sequencer i.e., know which pads are filled, where the steps are and the loop is. I do not see the exact color in the top rows, whether it's green or orange,
but it was never a problem as I see what's selected or useable. For clip colors, which also show up on Push, I make sure to chose the ones which look different too me.

I too have problems on other devices and green, yellow, amber looks almost the same to me.

Chris

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Re: Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by jtdj » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:17 pm

How do you know if you are colour blind? 90% of colour blind claimers are liars. Fact.

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Re: Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by glitchrock-buddha » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:38 pm

jtdj wrote:How do you know if you are colour blind? 90% of colour blind claimers are liars. Fact.
94% of statistics are made up on the spot. Fact.
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Re: Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by pencilrocket » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:41 pm

jtdj wrote:How do you know if you are colour blind? 90% of colour blind claimers are liars. Fact.
why do they have to pretend to be color blind. makes no sense.

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Re: Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by botstein » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:11 pm

jtdj wrote:How do you know if you are colour blind?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_perception_test
jtdj wrote:90% of colour blind claimers are liars.
What?

I'm also lactose intolerant, and I see about as much reason to lie about that. I'd rather have synæsthesia or something.
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botstein
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Re: Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by botstein » Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:13 pm

[csk] wrote:Hey,

I'm a developer at Ableton and worked on the color management of Push. Being colorblind myself (quite strong red/green), I am very happy with the colors.

I clearly see the 3 split parts in the step sequencer i.e., know which pads are filled, where the steps are and the loop is. I do not see the exact color in the top rows, whether it's green or orange,
but it was never a problem as I see what's selected or useable. For clip colors, which also show up on Push, I make sure to chose the ones which look different too me.

I too have problems on other devices and green, yellow, amber looks almost the same to me.

Chris
Chris, thank you so much for responding. I was already exited about Push, and am much more exited now!
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Re: Push and Deuteranomaly

Post by ousid » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:29 pm

[csk] wrote:Hey,

I'm a developer at Ableton and worked on the color management of Push. Being colorblind myself (quite strong red/green), I am very happy with the colors.

I clearly see the 3 split parts in the step sequencer i.e., know which pads are filled, where the steps are and the loop is. I do not see the exact color in the top rows, whether it's green or orange,
but it was never a problem as I see what's selected or useable. For clip colors, which also show up on Push, I make sure to chose the ones which look different too me.

I too have problems on other devices and green, yellow, amber looks almost the same to me.

Chris
Are the colors significantly better in Push than in Launchpad? Launchpad is quite useless for me (at least without M4L) since i can't see what clip I am playing.

Do you know whether you have protanomaly or deuteranomaly?


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