Live records midi notes late.
ALWAYS the first note, and today every note is recorded late.
"Just tick the preference for Quantize during record,
then your recording will be perfectly rigidly quantized as you record".
No.
"Just do what skrillex does and draw your notes in using the pencil tool".
Heh, uh...no.
Seriously though, there's some quantization bugs in live.
midi notes are Always late.
Re: midi notes are Always late.
Record to audio while you jam?
Agreed though, midi stuff ALWAYS has to be fixed after, even if the timing was perfect.
Agreed though, midi stuff ALWAYS has to be fixed after, even if the timing was perfect.
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Synthbuilder
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Re: midi notes are Always late.
Live's midi input timing is very poor. I e-mailed support about this years ago and the reply said it had something to do with the way Live handles midi in relation to audio. It prioritises audio and thus midi has to wait for the audio to be dealt with first. In other words, Live's midi response is tied to your soundcard's drivers and settings. They seemed to imply that certain soundcard drivers produced a better midi response to others with all other things being equal.
I normally quantise and hand edit any recorded midi.
I normally quantise and hand edit any recorded midi.
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Re: midi notes are Always late.
Hi,
When I use Schwarzinator a max device Ableton timing jump around
how a rubber ball .
A arpeggiator on a track that records midi can have the same riming problem.
Alex K . Drum midimaschine max device the same ..timing and starting problems...
Its hard but so is Ableton ..
Wfg
s.r.
When I use Schwarzinator a max device Ableton timing jump around
how a rubber ball .
A arpeggiator on a track that records midi can have the same riming problem.
Alex K . Drum midimaschine max device the same ..timing and starting problems...
Its hard but so is Ableton ..
Wfg
s.r.
Re: midi notes are Always late.
Do you have "reduced latency when monitoring" on in the options menu? If not, tick it. As far as I can tell this turns off the insanity of play through optimisation (which assumes you are playing early to compensate for latency and puts your MIDI late to compensate back again, or something equally weird).
Play through optimisation used to be on all the time and you had to go into the options.txt file to fix it.....
Play through optimisation used to be on all the time and you had to go into the options.txt file to fix it.....
Re: midi notes are Always late.
I had taken notice of this issue as well.
I found that clips that contained "PROGRAM CHANGE" data were problematic. A solution was to create adjecent DUMMY clips that contained all PC and CC SETUP data for said MIDI CHANNEL.
Also, clips that contains a lot of pitchbend/CC modulation/Aftertouch data produced a noticeable time shift as well, a solution to this was to "carve out" data, with strait lines and at larger data/beat intervals.
Also, when I "PLAY" my external MIDI from the "STOP" or "TOP" position, measure 1 is always a mess. After play for about 8 beats or so, every thing is in sync. This happens with my EXTERNAL MIDI DEVICE. It appears that Ableton Live is always trying to calculate the "CATCH-UP" position. After hitting play. Kind of weird though, because everything else locks tightly in sync.
I found that clips that contained "PROGRAM CHANGE" data were problematic. A solution was to create adjecent DUMMY clips that contained all PC and CC SETUP data for said MIDI CHANNEL.
Also, clips that contains a lot of pitchbend/CC modulation/Aftertouch data produced a noticeable time shift as well, a solution to this was to "carve out" data, with strait lines and at larger data/beat intervals.
Also, when I "PLAY" my external MIDI from the "STOP" or "TOP" position, measure 1 is always a mess. After play for about 8 beats or so, every thing is in sync. This happens with my EXTERNAL MIDI DEVICE. It appears that Ableton Live is always trying to calculate the "CATCH-UP" position. After hitting play. Kind of weird though, because everything else locks tightly in sync.

