Ecler Nuo4 and the DJ's

JohnDP · Post by **JohnDP** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:20 am

Hi there, i am new to this forum. I have two questions for you.

1. Does anybody know if the Ecler Nuo4 is able to nudge the tempo of Ableton ofr pitchbending purposes?

2. I have a UC-33 Controller and i don't like the fact that the EQ's are zeroed at 3-4 PM and not at 12 (noon) like the EQ's on hardware mxiers or Traktor for instance. Does anybody of you know how to solve this problem?

Thanks

JohnDP

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:09 am

JohnDP wrote:
2. I have a UC-33 Controller and i don't like the fact that the EQ's are zeroed at 3-4 PM and not at 12 (noon) like the EQ's on hardware mxiers or Traktor for instance.

are you referring to the EQ3 effect in Ableton having off-center zeroing?
or are the Rotary knobs on your UC-33 zeroed at 3-4? (they shouldn't be)

JohnDP · Post by **JohnDP** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:13 am

yes i mean off center zeroing with Ableton EQ.

The knobs on the UC-33 are fine, if i use them with Traktor they are zeroed at noon as any other hardware mixer.

It might sound strange, but with off-center zeroing i find it very difficult to accurately mix with Ableton. It would be cool if there was a chance to change this zeroing issue.

Thanks

JohnDP

jeskola · Post by **jeskola** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:21 am

Yer - one thing i hate on the uc33 is when i set up my EQ 0 is 3 oclock.
so when yuor mixing if you go past 3 it starts to get well bassy and distort... would much better if full the way round was 0 on the eq (low especially)

glenclayton · Post by **glenclayton** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:41 am

There is another post from AdamJay explaining how to use EQ4 as a bass/treble EQ and if you do that then you don't have problems with the zeroing (one knob is hard left and the other hard right when the EQ is off) - and you get lower CPU usage- you don't get kills or midrange if you can live with that.....

JohnDP · Post by **JohnDP** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:47 am

well maybe i can do with that...where is the post? What should i search for?

I am new to the "producing" side of music, so is there actually a reason for the EQ's not being zeroed at noon? Its a standard in the DJ world so i'd reckon there has to be a plausbile explanation for such a programming decision in Live.

JohnDP

muthafunka · Post by **muthafunka** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:16 pm

jeskola wrote:Yer - one thing i hate on the uc33 is when i set up my EQ 0 is 3 oclock.
so when yuor mixing if you go past 3 it starts to get well bassy and distort... would much better if full the way round was 0 on the eq (low especially)

Can you not set max/min values to controllers on the UC33? You certainly can on the Remote 25. If not maybe you can do it with one of the clever midi utilities that peeps use to re-assign/route midi #s/controllers etc

bod · Post by **bod** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:47 pm

thats what i did with my bcr2000, work out the midi value of the knob when the relevant eq is at zero, then set that value as the top value the knob will go to. means you dont have to worry about pumping it past the zero mark and getting distortion.

simple.

JohnDP · Post by **JohnDP** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:56 pm

could somebody please help me with my UC33? I got one but i am completely new to this thing. I have no clue where to find the min/max settings or how to use one of those midi apps.

Thanks

JohnDP

montrealbreaks · Post by **montrealbreaks** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:10 pm

There's a good pic of the Nuo 4 here:

http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/s ... did/104183

It looks like dedicated MIDI in the centre, with some sort of MIDI control on channels 2 and 3. Not quite a Xone Ctrl, but there ya go.

For pitchbending? At the bottom of the silver strip of dedicated MIDI controls, there appears to be a "Pitch Up" and a "Pitch Down" button, but whether these are absolute, incremental buttons for increasing the pitch or "nudge / break" buttons, I can't say.

It looks designed for Traktor, really.

glenclayton · Post by **glenclayton** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:25 pm

Do a search on the words 'EQ4' and user 'AdamJay' and look at the thread 'Which Flanger is Best for DJ user' and about the 6th or 7th post is a very clear description of how to use an EQ4 for treble and bass EQ. (and indeed for kills as well). On following posts there is discussion of the relative merits EQ4 vs EQ3.

I switched my EQ3's to EQ4's and (on 5 tracks) and my CPU usage went down by 5%, I no longer have to worry about getting the knob back to the 0db position and I think it gives me a better control of the sound.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:01 pm

bod wrote:thats what i did with my bcr2000, work out the midi value of the knob when the relevant eq is at zero, then set that value as the top value the knob will go to. means you dont have to worry about pumping it past the zero mark and getting distortion. simple.

Good idea!

Celtic · Post by **Celtic** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:14 pm

I thought the UC-33e had a mute function so you can turn the knob to whatever position you like without sending out MIDI Signals.

You should be able to zero the knob and zero the EQ using this feature.

Or you could use the adjustable 4 band Steinberg EQ VST that I use

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:48 pm

yea the best solution is don't use EQ3.
it can't do anything that EQ4 can't do.

i'll paste from my other post explaining it:

you CAN use EQ4 as a dj style EQ, its all how you set it up.
turn off 1 of the 4 bands, leaving 3 active bands, and here are the settings you use:

Low, 100hz
Mid, 1khz
High, 8khz
each of them with a "Q" of 0.50

lets say you turned off band 1, leaving 2(low),3(mid),4(high) for your dj style EQ.
now assign your midi controller to the GAIN of each band.
3 band EQ.

Celtic · Post by **Celtic** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:54 pm

Or you could just use all 4 bands, dont see the problem with that, some Allen & Heath mixers use 4 bands.

Ecler Nuo4 and the DJ's

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