Using Motorized Faders with Live 4

Anthrum · Post by **Anthrum** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:36 pm

I am having trouble using the flying / motorized faders on my Yamaha O1V digital mixer with Live 4.

I can Live to receive and send fader levels to the O1V, but the problems comes when I try to change the levels using the faders themselves. Whenever I try to move them, they "fight" me because I guess they are getting data from Live as well as my finger.

I have looked throught the O1V manual, but I can't figure out a solution.

Has anyone else come across this problem and found a solution?

Thanks.

MG
Anthrum

AndrewDuke · Post by **AndrewDuke** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:26 pm

there's definitely a solution out there. read about this recently in a magazine. try googling in the sound on sound, computer music magazine, those type of magazine archives. hope this helps. andrew

jt_castillo · Post by **jt_castillo** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:47 pm

perhaps this might help:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... s+fighting

chis · Post by **chis** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:13 pm

Well, the thread that link references makes no mention of a real fix for the fader fighting problem. Is it still an issue? I'm seriously thinking about getting a BCF2000 to complement my BCR2000.

Anthrum · Post by **Anthrum** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:20 pm

Yes, this is still an issue.

No one out there has figured out a work around?!?

Ok fine, let's figure it out together.

The problem is (as we all seem to know) that the faders are sending data (while you push them) and receiving data at the same time, so it by the time you push it where you want to go, the info where you had it comes ms to late, thus the "fighting" effect.

So what's the solution?

We need to process the midi data BEFORE it hits Live. There must be some little (or big) midi utility/program/hardware that can watch the midi I/O stream on the O1V (or whatever your fader box is) and if it sees midi coming FROM the fader device, it blocks the looped back midi IN. This seems reasonable.

Of course, Ableton could just make this a setting in the program, adjustable PER FADER, but I need it now.

I am working on a Mac, others on a PC, so if you list a suggested software, let's state what platform they work on.

I will try to solve this problem this weekend. Keep you all updated.

MG
Anthrum

PS - I have (2) MOTU MTP2's (serial) that I am not using. That might handle it, gotta check...