how to not trigger a clip within a scene?

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how to not trigger a clip within a scene?

Post by eisnein » Wed May 18, 2005 5:59 pm

is there any way to trigger a scene without a clip getting triggered? anyone tried anything of this nature?

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Post by David_T » Wed May 18, 2005 7:14 pm

I assume you mean how do you do this when the clip is ordinarily lined up with other clips in the scene. .

The best way for me would be to just copy and paste all the clips into a new scene without the clip in question, so you have two versions. If you don't want to do that, you could keymap or midimap something to the stop clips switch for the track you don't want in the scene. Say you have the letter "a" on the keyboard set to trigger the scene--you could have the letter "s" set to stop clips for the one track. Hitting "a" then "s" will give you the scene minus that one track.

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Post by eisnein » Wed May 18, 2005 7:28 pm

right right- but there is no way to turn a trigger off on a clip?

i have a limited amount of scenes- lets say 10 and i dont want to make a copy of the scene without that clip- could i turn its ability to trigger off but still midi control it?

weird

thank you David_T for your kind suggestion
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Post by mike holiday » Wed May 18, 2005 7:41 pm

remove the stop button

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Post by David_T » Wed May 18, 2005 7:57 pm

eisnein wrote:right right- but there is no way to turn a trigger off on a clip?
You just have to use the stop clips button for the track, which is the little square right about the words "midi from" or "audio from" when you have the i/o view on. Right above the send knobs if you don't have the i/o view on.

You can midi-map it so you trigger the scene and then immediately stop that clip--before the scene even starts (assuming you have global quantize at one bar or something).

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Post by eisnein » Wed May 18, 2005 8:08 pm

right gotcha but hear me out- there is no way to set it so that clip doesnt trigger when i change the scene? i have to trigger and then stop that clip? i just want to turn that clip so it never triggers with a scene...if i put the trigger style on a different mode will that do it?

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Post by David_T » Wed May 18, 2005 8:35 pm

Gate mode does it.

So why do you still want the clip in the scene?

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Post by Rex » Wed May 18, 2005 8:56 pm

So why do you still want the clip in the scene?
My question exactly.

You do know that you can remove the clips if you decide you don't want them, right?

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Post by eisnein » Wed May 18, 2005 10:35 pm

yeah ha ha

i want to be able to trigger a scene- a group of loops - but then say i want to play a loop or trigger a one shot within that scene- and i want it there already so i dont have to track it down and put the clip there--i sppse gate will do the trick but it would be nice if you could have a scene ignore or something like that for clips that you dont want triggered in a scene...
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Post by mike holiday » Wed May 18, 2005 10:38 pm

all you do is remove the stop button (in the clip under the clip that you dont want to stop)
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then when you fire the sceen

PRESTO

the clip doesn't stop

so you could remove all stop buttons in a sceen and just have the one clip

then when you launch the sceen nothing stops and the clip you want fires

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Post by forge » Wed May 18, 2005 11:50 pm

mike holiday wrote:all you do is remove the stop button (in the clip under the clip that you dont want to stop)
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then when you fire the sceen

PRESTO

the clip doesn't stop

so you could remove all stop buttons in a sceen and just have the one clip

then when you launch the sceen nothing stops and the clip you want fires
slect the clip then ctrl/cmd-E will 'remove slot button'

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Post by eisnein » Thu May 19, 2005 1:11 am

exact opposite of what im talking about.....i dont want the clip to keep playing when i switch scenes--

i dont want the clip to start when i select a scene and i dont want to add a new scene for when i want that clip to play- i want to play that clip after the scene starts....
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Post by beateater » Thu May 19, 2005 1:59 am

I don't know why you don't put that clip on scene 'whatever', a scene you may not even trigger but just use to house the clip (say scene 10b). trigger scene 1, then, having assign said clip to midi note, trigger it when you want. It doesn't need to be in currently playing scene.

If that doesn't give you the desired result I'm sorry but I don't get what you're trying to do.

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Post by eisnein » Thu May 19, 2005 2:04 am

thank you beateater- that is the simple kind of answer i needed - yes that would do the trick 100%.....

but for organization and ease of use i would love a way to have it be part of a scene as well...

sorry.

thank you for understanding though
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Post by Former Pharaoh » Thu May 19, 2005 2:47 am

Basically, you just want to trigger a scene and have select clips play (say 4 out of 5 clips in a scene for example). Unfortunately it cannot be done. I tried myself but to no avail. Maybe it can be a feature request?

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