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Push and 3rd party vst's

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:07 pm
by cmreal04
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, but can I play 3rd party vst's from push if they're loaded into an instrument rack?

Re: Push and 3rd party vst's

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:26 pm
by tedlogan
You certainly can. You can also control their parameters from the 8 encoders if you configured those with Live's "configure" button, but only up to a 128, and it's also quite messy - up to 16 Banks with no names, and the parameters names themselves can be quite cryptic

tom_d is working on a script that will enable you to greatly improve this behaviour though, enabling renaming of parameters and banks. So far Mac only, but he's working on a PC version as well.

Here is a link to that thread:

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=201849

btw tom_d, will send a PM soon regarding being a guinea pig (if still needed)

Re: Push and 3rd party vst's

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:59 pm
by cmreal04
tedlogan wrote:You certainly can. You can also control their parameters from the 8 encoders if you configured those with Live's "configure" button, but only up to a 128, and it's also quite messy - up to 16 Banks with no names, and the parameters names themselves can be quite cryptic

tom_d is working on a script that will enable you to greatly improve this behaviour though, enabling renaming of parameters and banks. So far Mac only, but he's working on a PC version as well.

Here is a link to that thread:

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=201849

btw tom_d, will send a PM soon regarding being a guinea pig (if still needed)
Ok thanks! Time to take the plunge...

Re: Push and 3rd party vst's

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:43 am
by thegoodsirjames
cmreal04 wrote:I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, but can I play 3rd party vst's from push if they're loaded into an instrument rack?
Yep but you have to load each separate preset onto a separate rack if you're interested in loading the presets from Push. It takes a LONG time. I'm currently working on some and will share if I ever complete them - but they are a real PITA even if you can automate some of the process. You can get most the NI ones done already at audiomodder though, Omnisphere from freelance soundlabs, and Diva, Sylenth and some Arturia ones from Mabelton.

Re: Push and 3rd party vst's

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:26 pm
by cmreal04
thegoodsirjames wrote:
cmreal04 wrote:I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, but can I play 3rd party vst's from push if they're loaded into an instrument rack?
Yep but you have to load each separate preset onto a separate rack if you're interested in loading the presets from Push. It takes a LONG time. I'm currently working on some and will share if I ever complete them - but they are a real PITA even if you can automate some of the process. You can get most the NI ones done already at audiomodder though, Omnisphere from freelance soundlabs, and Diva, Sylenth and some Arturia ones from Mabelton.
Yeah this is a tough call. I keep coming back to the novation sl boards....gotta go with one or the other, I'm not dropping over a grand for both.

Re: Push and 3rd party vst's

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:02 pm
by rev_engineer
Are you trying to decide between an SL and a Push? I just replaced my SL with a Push, would be happy to write some comparisons and thoughts if it would help?

Re: Push and 3rd party vst's

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:52 pm
by cmreal04
rev_engineer wrote:Are you trying to decide between an SL and a Push? I just replaced my SL with a Push, would be happy to write some comparisons and thoughts if it would help?
Yeah that would be much appreciated.