hello everybody
i had some problems with my titanium 1ghz
and i would like maybe to go to pc laptop
i have no idea what model should i buy , i would like to get quiet the same performance that my mac . i will use it mostely for live performance .
what model should i get- what kind of processor? should i get pentium 4 or centrino ?
i don't want to spent too much money
what do i have to look on the specs of the pc laptop , what is important ?
is a pentium 4 - 3,0 ghz enough ( i mean about the same that a titanium 1 ghz)
i also dont want to change again in 6 months
well if someone could help me that would be great
thanks a lot
changing laptop from MAC to PC
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Michael-SW
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Check out this performance thread to help you choose processor:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12375
The Centrinos stand up very well to the competition and while I don't know Apple's architecture, it seems a 1.86 MHz Pentium M ("Centrino") is at least as fast as a 2 GHz G5 - probably faster. (For Live use, that is).
The 2 GHz Pentium M is very expensive right now, so unless you have lots of cash to spare I would guess that the sweet spot is the 1.86 GHz. They seem about par with a 3 GHz Pentium 4.
BTW, Centrino isn't really the name of the processor, but just Intel branding speak for the whole kit of processor, motherboard, controller chips, WiFi etc. The actual processor is named Pentium M (not to be confused with Pentium 4 M, which is the mobile version of the ordinary desktop Pentium 4 - easy eh?)
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12375
The Centrinos stand up very well to the competition and while I don't know Apple's architecture, it seems a 1.86 MHz Pentium M ("Centrino") is at least as fast as a 2 GHz G5 - probably faster. (For Live use, that is).
The 2 GHz Pentium M is very expensive right now, so unless you have lots of cash to spare I would guess that the sweet spot is the 1.86 GHz. They seem about par with a 3 GHz Pentium 4.
BTW, Centrino isn't really the name of the processor, but just Intel branding speak for the whole kit of processor, motherboard, controller chips, WiFi etc. The actual processor is named Pentium M (not to be confused with Pentium 4 M, which is the mobile version of the ordinary desktop Pentium 4 - easy eh?)
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Michael-SW
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It should be at least double as fast as your current laptop, probably almost three times as fast.
But laptops with Pentium 4 (M) are getting rare these days. Intel is pushing the Pentium M/Centrino instead. I don't know if they are even manufacturing the Pentium 4 M anymore? But if you can find a good deal on one, it will work just fine and should perform on par with a 1.86 GHz Pentium M/Centrino.
No idea what you would have to pay - don't even know what country you are in! But if you want a benchmark, go to Dell's site in your country and check out the prices. That should give you a ballpark figure. It will be hard to find something much cheaper.
But laptops with Pentium 4 (M) are getting rare these days. Intel is pushing the Pentium M/Centrino instead. I don't know if they are even manufacturing the Pentium 4 M anymore? But if you can find a good deal on one, it will work just fine and should perform on par with a 1.86 GHz Pentium M/Centrino.
No idea what you would have to pay - don't even know what country you are in! But if you want a benchmark, go to Dell's site in your country and check out the prices. That should give you a ballpark figure. It will be hard to find something much cheaper.
Don't buy a 'pentium4' laptop .. it is essentially a desktop processor in a small box. It will get very hot and munch batteries.
The 'dothan' is the second generation of Centrino which came out in the middle of last year - that's what you want.
To make sure you arent getting an older centrino off a bad man
dothans code number is 755 and it has a 2meg L2 cache.
older centrinos have a 1meg cache and are a lot less good.
The 'dothan' is the second generation of Centrino which came out in the middle of last year - that's what you want.
To make sure you arent getting an older centrino off a bad man
dothans code number is 755 and it has a 2meg L2 cache.
older centrinos have a 1meg cache and are a lot less good.
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Michael-SW
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I have no experience at all with AMD processors, and even lesser with their laptop processors.
But I know that 1300 euros will give you a nice Dell laptop with a 1.86 GHz Centrino, 15.4" high res (1600x800) widescreen and 80 GB harddrive. That will definitely give you very good performance. As I said before, it will be at least twice as fast as your current machine.
But I know that 1300 euros will give you a nice Dell laptop with a 1.86 GHz Centrino, 15.4" high res (1600x800) widescreen and 80 GB harddrive. That will definitely give you very good performance. As I said before, it will be at least twice as fast as your current machine.
I would say that Centrino is the way to go... I've had one for about 5 months and used it extensively under demanding conditions, its hugely powerful, cheapish and stable...
Pritty much all the Centrino processors you can get are Dothan, not just the 2mhz version... these are 735,745,755
There are new versions of the processors with some slight improvements such as (if I remember correctly) bus speed, faster hard drive connections and these are 730,740,750.
After looking into all the different makes it looked to me that Toshiba, Sony (a little expensive) or IBM (rugged but uninspiring) were the best made laptops and cost effective. I went with a 745 Toshiba which has been excellent.
If moving from mac to pc, the most important thing that you can do after getting the laptop is to set it up the OS for music, I'm sure its been mentioned many times in here but follow the tips here http://www.musicxp.net/index.php
This will help ensure that your laptop runs efficient and stable..
Pritty much all the Centrino processors you can get are Dothan, not just the 2mhz version... these are 735,745,755
There are new versions of the processors with some slight improvements such as (if I remember correctly) bus speed, faster hard drive connections and these are 730,740,750.
After looking into all the different makes it looked to me that Toshiba, Sony (a little expensive) or IBM (rugged but uninspiring) were the best made laptops and cost effective. I went with a 745 Toshiba which has been excellent.
If moving from mac to pc, the most important thing that you can do after getting the laptop is to set it up the OS for music, I'm sure its been mentioned many times in here but follow the tips here http://www.musicxp.net/index.php
This will help ensure that your laptop runs efficient and stable..