Who ever said sampling and slicing on the Ableton Push is im

[Thatboysubz]

Maschine has sampling features like templates for an MP60,SP1200 plus ADSR(Attack,Decay,Sustain,Release)if I'm not mistaken,its basically 3 sample modes if they haven't hidden more which ma mans Adon Geel showed me on his NI Maschine,so basically you get 2 classic hardware samplers(their methods exactly)plus more advanced newer skool sampler functions in one Software/Hardware combo,on my Ableton Push you get the same features in one device called a Simpler,which is Abletons in house "sampler",givin you 3 sample modes,Classic Mode,giving you(Looping &16 Levels)which are MPC modes,One Shot(1-shot sequencing)plus Slicing(givin you multitudes of slice n chop modes for your sample)when you dive deep in to device mode in a controller like the Ableton Push,you get to discover that in slicing mode alone you have 3 ways to slice your shit up,we got manual mode 1st which ma mans Adon Geel showed me in his NI Maschine,whereby say we record a sample straight from vinyl onto the 1st pad of our machine into the software,when we done with that,we hit the 1st pad n the sample starts playin back for us to hear,then ur 2nd pad flashes up,when you hit 2nd pad,3rd one flashes up,when you hit 3rd one,4th one flashes up and so forth etc,meaning we manually create slice points,where we want em,when we want em till we fill up the whole pad grid with custom assigned samples,then you get more options to tweak them to taste by holdin on to each pad while nudging(shiftin and slidin each sound to exacly the sound you wanna hear)on each pad manually,pad by pad,no mouse needed,this is all done manually on the Ableton Push,I dnt know if Mashine does this or what,or any of the old skool samplers,but yea,these are things I've discovered while learning this amazing device I got man n it sure looks like ima need a text book for more,I have a pdf manual for it but I haven't touched it yet cos I dnt have a pdf reader on my laptop yet :-/ ,this is shit I'm learning from pure messin around n takin notes from other producers,the other mode I've noticed is the ADSR thing on Maschine for(Attack,Decay,Sustain,Release)is an MPC function that let's you blend your chops to gel together without canceling each other out,like the release function bleeds continuously while you bang them pads out and attack keeps playin the notes you keep bangin in real time while sustain keeps the notes sustaining on each other and the decay keeps everything going but not make a mess of annoying notes that dnt end or cut off esthubeni n blend into each other in time in the process,givin you perfectly timed sequences n room to be super creative,I won't dive into other functions,I think I've said quite a mouthfull,all I just wanna say is lama die hard fan alama sampler akdala like the SP12's n MPC's and SP's thinkin' these new digital mediums we use are useless lol,think again,can lama hardware enu handle the heat just as much?

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[Thatboysubz]

A parragraph on what my mans?

[jestermgee]

A parragraph on what my mans?

You need to break up your slab of text so people can actually read it.

This is a new paragraph because it is on a new line (space above). Gives your eyes a chance to breath while you are reading. I have not read your question because it looked too hard to bother with and many others will simply skip over it too.

[hiphopdontstop]

Older thread, but I figured I'd help with the paragraph separation and punctuation... just in that kind of mood, ha.


Maschine has sampling features like, templates for an Akai MPC60 and E-mu SP1200, plus ADSR (Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release) if I'm not mistaken. It's basically 3 sample modes if they haven't hidden more which ma mans Adon Geel showed me on his NI Maschine.

So basically, you get 2 classic hardware samplers (their methods, exactly) plus, more advanced newer-skool sampler functions in one Software/Hardware combo!

On my Ableton Push, you get the same features in one device called a Simpler, which is Ableton's in-house "sampler", giving you 3 sample modes: Classic mode, giving you Looping & 16 Levels (which are MPC modes), One Shot (1-shot sequencing), plus Slicing (giving you multitudes of slice n chop modes for your sample).

When you dive deep into Device Mode in a controller like the Ableton Push, you get to discover that in Slicing mode alone, you have 3 ways to slice your shit up!

We got Manual Mode 1st, which ma mans Adon Geel showed me in his NI Maschine, whereby, say we record a sample straight from vinyl onto the 1st pad of our machine into the software..... When we done with that, we hit the 1st pad and the sample starts playin' back for us to hear, then ur 2nd pad flashes up. When you hit the 2nd pad, the 3rd one flashes up. When you hit 3rd one, the 4th one flashes up and so forth etc. Meaning, we manually create slice points where we want em and when we want em, till we fill up the whole pad grid with custom assigned samples!

Then you get even more options to tweak them to taste by holdin' onto each pad while nudging (shiftin' and slidin' each sound to exactly the sound you wanna hear) on each pad (manually, pad by pad, no mouse needed!). Again, this is all done manually on the Ableton Push!

I didn't know if Maschine does this or what, or any of the old-skool samplers, but yea! These are things I've discovered while learning this amazing device I got.... man, it sure looks like Ima need a text book for more! I have a pdf manual for it but I haven't touched it yet cos I didn't have a pdf reader on my laptop yet :-/ This is shit I'm learning from pure messin' around and takin' notes from other producers.

The other mode I've noticed is the ADSR thing on Maschine (for Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release). This is an MPC function that lets you blend your chops to gel together without canceling each other out. Like, the release function bleeds continuously while you bang them pads out. Attack keeps playin the notes you keep bangin in real-time, while Sustain keeps the notes sustaining on each other and the Decay keeps everything going but not make a mess of annoying notes that didn't end or cut off.

They blend into each other in time in the process, giving you perfectly-timed sequences and room to be super creative!

I won't dive into other functions; I think I've said quite a mouthful. All I just wanna say is l am a die-hard fan of samplers like the SP12's n MPC's and SP's, all the while thinkin' these new digital mediums we use are useless! LOL, I think again, can software handle the heat just as much? I think so!

[hiphopdontstop]

In response, yes, Ableton's Simpler is quite dope, indeed. Slice mode is very handy, and works very similarly to how it works in Maschine. It's just as fast, and just as fun.

As far as ADSR goes, it's better to use "Mono" mode with Simpler (in Slice mode) which allows for each sample triggered to cut off another that's currently playing. This is basically a "Choke Group", which Ableton's Drum Rack has (and also, Maschine). Choke Groups are faster and easier to use than ADSR settings, as you can keep each slice as a "one-shot" (which is how slicing works by default-- the sample plays even after you take your finger off the pad), and then if you hit a different pad, it "chokes" the one that was playing, and then plays that new one.

Very handy. Both Ableton and Maschine do this very, very well.

OP: your passion and excitement is infectious!