Making stems when you use compressors

[Quinten Samson]

Hello,

I'm trying to make a template to play stems live. The problem for me is that I use 1 or 2 compressors on every channel (often linked to a ghost channel. I have to remove the compressor to convert midi to audio. How can i Fix this?

For example: I want one channel for drums, but it would be a little bit weird to have a different compressor of every track i use drums. Or do you use one compressor for every drum kit?

I really want to dive in playing live, but right now i just don't see how i can bring a quality live set. Thanks for reading this and helping me out. I produce industrial techno by the way.

Kind regards,

Quinten

[Stromkraft]

I have to remove the compressor to convert midi to audio. How can i Fix this?

I'm not following here. I think you're talking about freezing/flattening? There's also resampling, recording and exporting. Normally the problem you describe concerns side-chaining. Those three methods avoid this issue. Watch out for any processing later in the signsl path, like on the master buss, with resampling, as this uses that as input.

I'm trying to make a template to play stems live. The problem for me is that I use 1 or 2 compressors on every channel (often linked to a ghost channel. I have to remove the compressor to convert midi to audio. How can i Fix this?

For example: I want one channel for drums, but it would be a little bit weird to have a different compressor of every track i use drums. Or do you use one compressor for every drum kit?

I really want to dive in playing live, but right now i just don't see how i can bring a quality live set. Thanks for reading this and helping me out. I produce industrial techno by the way.

I don't really see how stems are part of a live performance necessarily, but all artistic choices are valid I think. I think you mean like DJing or real time mixing with your own stems. That does sound interesting.

Are you using a drum buss or a grouped kit? On what tracks are the drums specifically and how are these routed? Where is the compressor and what is the SC signal? Screen dump? (make it smaller if you have a high resolution display)

[Quinten Samson]

Yes I mean Freezing and flattening. I can't do that without removing my compressor (because of sidechaining). I saw this video on youtube and this is what I wan't to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7i3A_pXxEM

I don't want to make a dj set, I want to activate clips in session view, these clips could come out of different tracks i made. On top of that I want to use external instruments like my tb 03 to make it a live set.

I usually have a copy of my kick drum what i call ghost channel. Then I sidechain every separate midi channel to Ghost kick with a compressor. For example: I have a drum group, containing like 6 channels. Every channel has like a different drum, like a hi hat, clap, rides etc. Also every channel in that group has a sidechain to my ghost chain. I'm sorry if i'm not explaining it well, i also don't understand how I can post a picture on this forum.

[Stromkraft]

i also don't understand how I can post a picture on this forum.

Sign up at a picture place like imgur (free as far as I know) and upload to there, then copy the link and paste this into here, select it and press the [img] button above. That's it.

[rekloos]

Hello,

I'm trying to make a template to play stems live. The problem for me is that I use 1 or 2 compressors on every channel (often linked to a ghost channel. I have to remove the compressor to convert midi to audio. How can i Fix this?

For example: I want one channel for drums, but it would be a little bit weird to have a different compressor of every track i use drums. Or do you use one compressor for every drum kit?

I really want to dive in playing live, but right now i just don't see how i can bring a quality live set. Thanks for reading this and helping me out. I produce industrial techno by the way.

Kind regards,

Quinten

Only way is to bounce each track individually, you have a choice to do so when you 'Export Audio/Video'and you sidechain will stay intact.

[Stromkraft]

Only way is to bounce each track individually, you have a choice to do so when you 'Export Audio/Video'and you sidechain will stay intact.

Hello???

I just gave multiple ways, including exporting. Also, it's not necessarily as simple as you imply. Side-Chaining can be very complex depending how you do it.

[rekloos]

Only way is to bounce each track individually, you have a choice to do so when you 'Export Audio/Video'and you sidechain will stay intact.

Hello???

I just gave multiple ways, including exporting. Also, it's not necessarily as simple as you imply. Side-Chaining can be very complex depending how you do it.[/quote]

He's talking about making stems for live performance which is why i gave him the best option for such occasion, and i'm speaking from personal experience using same methods for myself. Why did i say only? Because when you construct a live set, it's important to have a proper file management system. Most likely he has a bunch of different songs in different folders, each with their own samples/sounds....
When you bounce a stem, you can:

1- keep sidechaining intact
2- no need to mute/solo/reroute audio for resampling/freezing/etc
3- on exporting you can name the track properly
4- save the file into a Live Set Folder of your choice
5- choose type of file or sampling rate/quality of audio

This all happening in one shot by simply Exporting the track.

I understand there are other options but they are there to be used for the proper application and from my experience this is the only way (no need to interpret it figuratively) to do it.

[Stromkraft]

When you bounce a stem, you can:

1- keep sidechaining intact
2- no need to mute/solo/reroute audio for resampling/freezing/etc
3- on exporting you can name the track properly
4- save the file into a Live Set Folder of your choice
5- choose type of file or sampling rate/quality of audio

This all happening in one shot by simply Exporting the track.

I understand there are other options but they are there to be used for the proper application and from my experience this is the only way (no need to interpret it figuratively) to do it.

You put the end quote wrong.

I'm not arguing against those merits, but the idea that you have to move something out of the set in order to re-import is to me quite a bit silly. It can of course be convenient in a number of ways to, but I prefer to stay in project. Especially as I'm not overly impressed with exports (I have made many tests).

I see advantages with exporting, those you mentioned, and also the fact you can have really long loops without going up the max with Flatten, which is 128 bars or something like that.

You could call it something like "the only sane way" or something like that. Just "the only" actually means that. Not figuratively, that is what it means…

I cannot speak for what the OP prefers, of course. I still haven't fully grasped what the objectives are exactly, but if you have understood that's great.

[jestermgee]

You put the end quote wrong.

So did you several posts up Strom... That's what has caused his issues with quotes there, just FYI.

[Stromkraft]

You put the end quote wrong.

So did you several posts up Strom... That's what has caused his issues with quotes there, just FYI.

Ah, my bad. Fixed it. Thank you!

@rekloos, my apologies. Please remove the superfluous end quote in your quote of my misquote.