Does anyone have Mackie emulation with FW1884 as agregate?

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Does anyone have Mackie emulation with FW1884 as agregate?

Post by LOFA » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:15 pm

Hi, I have been trying to get the mackie control emulation to work with the FW 1884 as part of an agregate device. I have not been successful yet. I am considering teraing apart my agregate device and unselecting the rest of my remote midi devices as a means to narrow down variables and get things running. I am hesitant however, since I have experienced strange occurences in the past, such as my microkontrol only working on midi port #2. Up until now Live has been extraordinarilly easy to setup, but the Tascam fw1884, from driver installation, maintainance, and even through navigation of it's 4 simultaneously operational control modes, can be a tough egg.

OK I admit it. Upon looking at all of the different potential routing sources in the midi setup page, I am definately at a loss for why I'm not get automated control, or midi mapability. There are so many checked boxes, posibilities on incompatability in my tiger-based agregate device, and lack of information in the beautiful, beautiful pdf manual. Hopefully this thread will be of use to others as well.

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Post by Mididreamer » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:52 pm

Dear Lofa,

What exactly do you want to do. At the moment I am testing Live 5 Beta 17 and it works in Mackie Control mode as a charm. All faders are working and most of the buttons are responding. In Midi control mode you can assign buttons to Live Synths or effects. I seldom use the FW-1884, leave it up to X-session as an extra midi controler.

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Post by LOFA » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:40 pm

First off, you helped me before, so once again I appreciate your interest in my current pronlem.

I simply want to assifn it in the same manner that I believe everyone wants. I want to use my automatd faders, and I want to use my tascam as a dedicated controller. Is this possible as part of an agregate device?

Actually, reather thatn answer that I would more like to know whow people are setting up the MAckie controls in general (on the setup page) as the instructions I have found on line an d the manual haven't helped yet. I swear I missing something really obvious.

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Yup

Post by ebencarlson » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:09 pm

It didn't quite automate like I thought it would either. Sounds like it might be closer in 5!

Make sure you have the Tascam selected in the MIDI preferences in Live. Then click the MIDI box over on the top right. From there you can select any Live feature you want controlled and by touching the corresponding Tascam knob or fader or button, it should assign it. One note: when selecting the faders, keep your finger on the fader until after you deselect the Live fader--or else they can get wierd. I'm still having problems with my pans. Some of them want to do an on/off instead of a graduated thing. All of them rotate backwards. Maybe 5 will fix it in the mix.

E-mail me if you have prob.s (as long as you've RTFM). Ecarlson15(at)sprintpcs(dot)com

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Post by LOFA » Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:36 am

Yeah, I think I even stated in my original post that the manual didn't cover my current problem, though it may have and I will read it again. I have been reading the live manual off and on for the last year or so and the 5 section on midi deosn't seem to have changed much from 4's.

As far as your suggetions, I have been using midi devices with live for a while now, and I am well aware of the procedure that you have mentioned with regards to assigning actual keys, but that isn't even my problem, as I haven't even got that far.

I have selected a midi port (1) for the tascam, and my microkontrol is still on 2 (as this is the only port that microkontrol will work on with Live-go figure...), and I have selected the tascam as a remote midi-controller on the bottom as well. Unfortunately, I havent been able to see a light in the top corner, nor have I been able to assign any faders, but there are always the following variables:

1) I'm really oblivious sometimes ( thus my 200+ posts) and sometimes don't see the obvious solutions right away, so I will troubleshoot and read the manual for the Xth time.

2) It is still a beta and may or may not be at it's optimum state of performance yet.

3) The fact that it is in it's beta state, combined with the fact that I am using 10.4's agregate device could be part of the reason, and thus the reason I posted this thread, on the off hand chance that I am losing hair over something I have no control over.

Alright, Back to work!

Edit- Oh yeah, thanks for the up-to-date on it's performance. I'm really jealous of all y'all who have it up and running already, but hopefully I'll catch up tonight!

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Post by LOFA » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:21 pm

I dismantled all other midi devices in live and Tried a variety of settings but can't get midi flicker-indication from my tascam, though that orange block is indicating that messages are being sent.

I wonder if there is a confllict with the driver- perhaps I only have the Logic version operating?

It was a nightmare getting logic to run, so I don't want to f that up. If anyone is running both, please spare a suggestion!

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Post by LOFA » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:55 am

All sorted. I was overlooking the one port I needed, in the haystack of possible ports that are now open to me, between Midipipe, my two firewire devices, and my tiger agregate device, I'm just overwhelmed by all of the new possibllities of my hard/software. So overwhelmed that I was looking at the LV-1 (faderfox) at dolphin music UK (around $326.00). I really can't tell what invisible force is stopping me...

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Post by Mididreamer » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:14 pm

LOFA wrote:All sorted. I was overlooking the one port I needed, in the haystack of possible ports that are now open to me, between Midipipe, my two firewire devices, and my tiger agregate device, I'm just overwhelmed by all of the new possibllities of my hard/software. So overwhelmed that I was looking at the LV-1 (faderfox) at dolphin music UK (around $326.00). I really can't tell what invisible force is stopping me...
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Re: Does anyone have Mackie emulation with FW1884 as agregate?

Post by [email protected] » Fri May 29, 2009 9:03 pm

Hello

I know this is a really old thread and hoping you are still using Live and the Tascam because I'm really struggling. I've posted this thread with a general note about what to expect but I've got a feeling I've just not set up properly.

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=116156

The Control Surface seems to work with my Live 8 in Computer mode. Faders all work and it control Live fairly well. My problem is where I'm trying to set up midi control in MIDI CTRL mode Live doesn't seem to receive signals from the faders, or encoders. It does receive other thing like the shuttle wheel. I've read the manuals back to front, ableton's and tascam's but I just cannot figure it out.

Many thanks in advance

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Re: Does anyone have Mackie emulation with FW1884 as agregate?

Post by Mididreamer » Sat May 30, 2009 5:02 am

[email protected] wrote:Hello

I know this is a really old thread and hoping you are still using Live and the Tascam because I'm really struggling. I've posted this thread with a general note about what to expect but I've got a feeling I've just not set up properly.

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=116156

The Control Surface seems to work with my Live 8 in Computer mode. Faders all work and it control Live fairly well. My problem is where I'm trying to set up midi control in MIDI CTRL mode Live doesn't seem to receive signals from the faders, or encoders. It does receive other thing like the shuttle wheel. I've read the manuals back to front, ableton's and tascam's but I just cannot figure it out.

Many thanks in advance

Hi [email protected]

It is still a nice peace of gear.I use it a lot with Sonar Cakewalk.
It is all about good drivers. Tascam is not one of the greatest in service :twisted: .
So you have to google a lot before you hvae all the information to let your Tascam FW-1884 work properly.
For example:
http://tascamforums.com/index.php?showtopic=20021

If you push your control mode on the FW-1884 you have to have driver 1.70, Unit version must say register 20, ARM 183, Hardware 3, FPGA 49, Control protocol ofcourse Mackie control emulation. In ableton you have to choose in preferences in Midi item control surfaces MackieControl and input FW 1884 Control and for output FW 1884 Control I also put beneath on Midi ports track, sync an remote " on " for input and output FW 1884 Macie Control.

It runs fine on Vista 32 or WIndows 7 RC1 :lol:

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