DJ mix..............but not Live!!

spadgham · Post by **spadgham** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:36 pm

Hi,

I am a newcomer to the Ableton world. I have sussed out how to use the app for live DJing but want to set about making some DJ mixes almost as if I were creating one long track. However, I'm not sure how best to approach this in Ableton. Has anyone got any experience of doing this? Will I have to edit all my individual tracks before I use them? Obviously I am not always going to want to use the entire of a record in a mix and will therefore not want to play the start or end. If I were DJing I would make use of the crossfader for this but if I'm laying down an entire mix the only way I think, right now, of doing this is by editing the track before I use it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!

drush · Post by **drush** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:52 pm

spadgham wrote:I have sussed out how to use the app for live DJing

spadgham wrote:but want to set about making some DJ mixes almost as if I were creating one long track

those 2 statements are in direct conflict with eachother.

if you've figured out how to sync and play tracks or clips, hit record and play them in succession as you see fit. you can fade between 2-to-X number of tracks, using the channel volumes or by assigning alternating (or whatever) crossfaders. channel strip volume control is probably much easier.

or else i'm completely misunderstanding you. honestly even the subject of your post doesn't make sense.

spadgham · Post by **spadgham** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:09 pm

Sorry, I thought I explained myself pretty well!

Basically, I don't want to do a live mix........i.e. do it all in one sitting.

I want to do what most people would term a 'studio mix'. Take some tracks, sequence them up, add some loops and effects, then save the whole thing.......kinda like making a track I guess.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:14 pm

Use the Arrangement view (in the manual)

You can edit out the parts you don't want non-destructively.

You can fade between tracks and use effects, etc

Look in the manual.

Flowbee · Post by **Flowbee** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:50 am

If you're in the session view (where you trigger your clips and loops) just hit the big record button in the transport at the top of your screen. Now, any combination of clips you launch, including volume adjustments and crossfader actions, will be recorded in the arrangement view. When you're done. Click the "stop" button in the transport, and then the "play" button... you'll hear back what you just "recorded."

The relationship between the session view and the arrangement view is fundamental to the way Live works. You should spend some time looking through the manual. It's available for download.

nuperspective · Post by **nuperspective** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:21 am

I am a newcomer to the Ableton world. I have sussed out how to use the app for live DJing but want to set about making some DJ mixes almost as if I were creating one long track.

is that not what separates the men from the boys. for me thats the ultimate set. something that sounds like one continuous piece of music. to do this with other peoples music takes hard work and a above all a great ear for fits together. this why i'm re-editing tracks in live to use in dj mixes. for me the next step is just using snare, high hat, vocal and synth fx loops to help give the illusion of one piece of music. the more editing you do the closer you get to an original performance.

over time as i get better at production i will use more of my tracks and loops, the same as pure science who plays out nothing but his own tracks. for me its a great talent that can make 2 hours of music lock together. however, dont forget 2 hours of music that sounds the same is boring. the first starting point is mixing in key. if you can start here your on your way.

the technical aspect of the mix should be the same as any dj mix using some 1210s. the beauty of live is the editing afterwards. but that will not save you. if you put shit in you get shit out - if you get my meaning. the tracks i use are chopped into sections and launched as scenes and thats about it.