Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

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chrisfreeq
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Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by chrisfreeq » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:33 pm

Am I dumb or is there no longer a shortcut for Show/Hide Returns in Arrangement View?
Are there other shortcuts that have been removed?

Why, Ableton, Why you do me like this?!

I guess they want us to use the mixer in arrangement view now. I don't have the screen real-estate for that...

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Re: Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by Tarekith » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:36 pm

Yes, they removed those key commands. You have to access them from the View menu now.

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Re: Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by chrisfreeq » Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:18 pm

Tarekith wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:36 pm
Yes, they removed those key commands. You have to access them from the View menu now.
Tedious and and time consuming.

They also removed [ALT] +1/2/3 in Clip view for viewing the Envelopes and such?
They're still listed in the manual..

EDIT, they're still there, but now they're SHIFT+ALT+1/2/3

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Re: Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by pr0fessor » Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:23 pm

Also adding in, they moved the quantize settings into that generative midi menu, which totally slows down the workflow. And why is there still no dotted note quantize? Apple/shft/U was so fast, now you have to noodle with the settings. Seems like they really went all in on functions for people that have no musical ability at the cost of a streamlined workflow.

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Re: Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by vertgrall » Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:22 pm

How does one hide sends and returns in live 12??

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Re: Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by Tarekith » Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:53 pm

ALT+CMD+S and ALT+CMD+R, you can also do it via the View - Mixer settings at the top of Live.

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Re: Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by Christian61 » Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:42 pm

Ableton simply failed me with this new version…

I paid top updated €€€… no updated documentation (poor management), poor browser… poor new tagging … no folders… no sorting.. UI issues .. changed shortcuts, and poor/no beta feedback / fixes. so no more beta testing for me…
Anyway guys, Ableton is in trouble..
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Re: Live 12: Trusty Keyboard shortcuts removed??

Post by Rivanni » Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:08 pm

Christian61 wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2024 8:42 pm
Ableton simply failed me with this new version…

I paid top updated €€€… no updated documentation (poor management), poor browser… poor new tagging … no folders… no sorting.. UI issues .. changed shortcuts, and poor/no beta feedback / fixes. so no more beta testing for me…
Anyway guys, Ableton is in trouble..
Why did you buy Live 12 when you knew about the browser, the tags, the shortcuts, etc, from using the beta?

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