Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

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Piplodocus
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Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by Piplodocus » Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:22 am

Question's in the title...

I'm not quite wild enough to have done the upgrade yet on 2nd day of release, but anyone here done so? Or done a load of beta testing? Any issues? Performance the same? Any weird glitches? All plugins work?

Hopefully in 15.0 it's all solid as there's been betas a while, but nothing like an unexplained performance drop or some glitch bug to ruin everything, so not bitten the bullet yet. Some are just better and faster refinements, while some change something under the hood that shafts everyone...

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by cids » Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:46 am

Works fine for me on 2 Apple Silicon Macs
Mac Studio M2 Max and MacBook Pro M4

Genelec M030; Live 12 latest and beta; macOS 27 Golden Gate
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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by Piplodocus » Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:20 pm

That's 100% success rate so far then. :)

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by Rivanni » Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:52 pm

I've been using Sequoia for a few months now, and I've had no issues at all on my M1 Mac.

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by cids » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:11 am

Always doublecheck if your plugins are supported, I haven't run into any issues but it can take a while before plugin vendors "officially" support a new OS
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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by nicobi » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:55 pm

Piplodocus wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:22 am
Question's in the title...

I'm not quite wild enough to have done the upgrade yet on 2nd day of release, but anyone here done so? Or done a load of beta testing? Any issues? Performance the same? Any weird glitches? All plugins work?
Well, you probably know that you can find out easily without compromising your working system:

1. Clone your whole system onto an external SSD (recommending Carbon Copy Cloner).

2. Boot from the external system.

3. Upgrade the external system to macOS Sequoia.

4. Do testing work on the external system with current and old projects. You might have to provide some credential stuff again for different things…

5. If you encounter problems, non working tools or plugins, no problem, wait until the next updates are available. Meanwhile you can boot from your working system. Then after a time reboot into the external system, update the things to be updated and see if your working environment becomes stable. If you reach a comfortable performance you might probably want to upgrade your main working system.

Besides it is very much recommended to have external clones of a working system as a backup.

If you want to just test Sequoia without your production setup you can install Sequoia on your internal drive by setting up a dedicated APFS-volume and installing Sequoia onto that volume. Then you can boot from either system by simply choosing the startup disk. Of course if you have enough internal storage you could also clone your current systen to that APFS-volume.


Hint: With APFS macOS provides a snapshot functionality. So if you happen to install software or update apps on your working system you can create a snapshot of the system beforehand. If then the newly installed software or app or plugin does not work as expected you can return the system state to that snapshot from recovery mode and terminal. Very handy. It once saved me from a complete reinstall.


cheers

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by nomadjames » Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:11 am

Piplodocus wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:20 pm
That's 100% success rate so far then. :)
I really admire your enthusiasm.

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by Piplodocus » Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:38 pm

I'm now on Sequoia too! Live worked fine. Played about with a few projects. Then I had a problem where it locked up every time I exported a particular set I'd fiddled with (and killed off Live and "recovered it" in between). But then didn't save the recovered one, as I'd barely done anything to it anyway. Rebooted the next day and it all seemed fine again. So not sure that was anything OS related..

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by scoopneck » Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:58 pm

Is anyone having issues with Sequoia and external USB drives not being mountable? From other forums it sounds like Sequoia has been problematic for users with usb drives. I installed 15.4 on my brand new, two day old M4 Mac Mini in the hopes that the update would remedy the issue, but I was disappointed. The weird thing is that the drive worked on the first day I hooked it up, but I could only read from it (and not write to it). Did I accidentally set some preference that is causing this? The drive still works fine on an older Mac Book Pro 2015 running 12.7.6, so the data is still on there...it also shows up on the M4 Mini in disc utility, but is un-mountable.
Mac Mini M4 / 15.5 & Ipad Pro 13-inch M4
Universal Audio Apollo 8P & Twin Quad
Live Suite 11.3.22 / Max 7.3.5
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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by cids » Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:48 pm

scoopneck wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:58 pm
Is anyone having issues with Sequoia and external USB drives not being mountable? From other forums it sounds like Sequoia has been problematic for users with usb drives. I installed 15.4 on my brand new, two day old M4 Mac Mini in the hopes that the update would remedy the issue, but I was disappointed. The weird thing is that the drive worked on the first day I hooked it up, but I could only read from it (and not write to it). Did I accidentally set some preference that is causing this? The drive still works fine on an older Mac Book Pro 2015 running 12.7.6, so the data is still on there...it also shows up on the M4 Mini in disc utility, but is un-mountable.
What format is the drive? APFS or other? Does Disk Utility recognize the drive?
Mac Studio M2 Max and MacBook Pro M4

Genelec M030; Live 12 latest and beta; macOS 27 Golden Gate
UAD Apollo Twin

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by scoopneck » Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:55 pm

cids wrote:
Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:48 pm
scoopneck wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:58 pm
Is anyone having issues with Sequoia and external USB drives not being mountable? From other forums it sounds like Sequoia has been problematic for users with usb drives. I installed 15.4 on my brand new, two day old M4 Mac Mini in the hopes that the update would remedy the issue, but I was disappointed. The weird thing is that the drive worked on the first day I hooked it up, but I could only read from it (and not write to it). Did I accidentally set some preference that is causing this? The drive still works fine on an older Mac Book Pro 2015 running 12.7.6, so the data is still on there...it also shows up on the M4 Mini in disc utility, but is un-mountable.
What format is the drive? APFS or other? Does Disk Utility recognize the drive?
I discovered that the formatting, NTFS,which worked on my old MacBook Pro, is the issue. Needs to be APFS (or ExFat) for Sequoia.
Mac Mini M4 / 15.5 & Ipad Pro 13-inch M4
Universal Audio Apollo 8P & Twin Quad
Live Suite 11.3.22 / Max 7.3.5
Arturia Keystep 37 & Novation Launchcontrol XL MK2

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by cids » Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:31 pm

Mac Studio M2 Max and MacBook Pro M4

Genelec M030; Live 12 latest and beta; macOS 27 Golden Gate
UAD Apollo Twin

Ableton Push 2

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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by scoopneck » Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:10 pm

Should I feel nervous about using an open source or third party app on a drive with important to me data?
Mac Mini M4 / 15.5 & Ipad Pro 13-inch M4
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Re: Anyone tried MacOS Sequoia yet?

Post by cids » Tue Apr 08, 2025 1:46 pm

If you're not planning to use the disk with Windows maybe best to make a backup and reformat to APFS
Mac Studio M2 Max and MacBook Pro M4

Genelec M030; Live 12 latest and beta; macOS 27 Golden Gate
UAD Apollo Twin

Ableton Push 2

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