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Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:01 pm
by Reyn Ouwehand
Is it possible to download the installer of Ableton 12.1.5?
I just upgraded to 12.1.10 but instead of introducing less crashes, it introduced more crashes in my (complex) live-setup.
In the archive you can only download a 12.0.25 version, but not just one previous version, in this case 12.1.5.
Cheers, Reyn.
www.reyn.net
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:35 pm
by Rivanni
Windows:
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... 1.5_64.zip
macOS:
https://cdn-downloads.ableton.com/chann ... versal.dmg
Replace
suite with lite, intro, or standard if you need to download one of these editions.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:57 pm
by mr.adl
Reyn Ouwehand wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:01 pm
Is it possible to download the installer of Ableton 12.1.5?
I just upgraded to 12.1.10 but instead of introducing less crashes, it introduced more crashes in my (complex) live-setup.
In the archive you can only download a 12.0.25 version, but not just one previous version, in this case 12.1.5.
Cheers, Reyn.
www.reyn.net
Had one super hard crash as well, 5 minutes into making a new track but after that it was running smooth for about 2 hours or so without any further crashes. Not sure if it´s crashing more constant for you.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:26 pm
by Reyn Ouwehand
Ahh cheers Rivanni! You're a life saver! R.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:29 pm
by Reyn Ouwehand
mr.adl wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:57 pm
Had one super hard crash as well, 5 minutes into making a new track but after that it was running smooth for about 2 hours or so without any further crashes. Not sure if it´s crashing more constant for you.
Ah so sorry Mr. Adl..
I noticed that already a few times changing presets on Gatekeeper of Polyverse made Ableton crash hardcore. And it's crashing kinda random. And even one then I wasn't playing. Going back to 12.1.5 for the moment. The only crash lately with 12.1.5 is that Ableton crashes when I close the session. Even when I load a simple session before closing Ableton, it hangs..
R.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:04 pm
by [jur]
It'd be great if you could report your crashes to
Support.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:28 pm
by scruffyfox
3 fatal crashes within 20m
really not impressed and very quickly losing my patience with Live
I can consistently make it crash by pressing the STOP button
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:25 am
by Calagan
I'm usually more cautious, but this time I updated blindly to 12.1.10 (my next gig is in 1 month, so I've got time to manage eventual problems).
No issue on my system so far (Macbook Pro M1, Sonoma 14.7.4).
EDIT : unfortunately, see below my following post...
Please give you specs when giving your impression on an update : it can be useful for other users...
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:33 pm
by Calagan
mmm. I didn't have any crash while testing Live with some mixing sessions, but I did run a "live concert" session this afternoon, and it was a crashing party.
It seems this new Live version doesn't like the M4L device "Midi Hub". It's a device I use on a lot of Live sets to control vsti with my keyboard.
Each time it crashed, it was because I did tweak a knob or a fader linked to "Midi Hub"...
I will send my crash logs to the support, but before that I will downgrade to 12.1.5...
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:35 pm
by otalgia99
Also many crashes here today as well.
Two of the crashes threw this alert:
"No /GUI found for class InstrumentGroupDevice within corners."
I submitted CR's (and a screen shot of the above alert as well).
o99
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:38 pm
by otalgia99
Calagan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:33 pm
[snip] but before that I will downgrade to 12.1.5...
Wow -- Is it possible to downgrade? ...I thought that sets saved under subsequent versions no longer open in the previous ones...
o99
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:41 am
by Rivanni
otalgia99 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:38 pm
Calagan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:33 pm
[snip] but before that I will downgrade to 12.1.5...
Wow -- Is it possible to downgrade? ...I thought that sets saved under subsequent versions no longer open in the previous ones...
o99
As long as the first two numbers in the version number (so in this case 12.1) are the same, everything is compatible.
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:43 pm
by otalgia99
Rivanni wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:41 am
As long as the first two numbers in the version number (so in this case 12.1) are the same, everything is compatible.
Thanks, Rivanni! I was unaware of this important detail.
o99
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:58 pm
by otalgia99
After three more crashes this morning I have "downgraded" for now.
Will report on stability presently, but for now -- thanks again to you all for your collective wisdom!
o99
Re: Downgrade to Ableton 12.1.5
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 4:04 pm
by otalgia99
But first, before downgrading ensure that you have Live's auto-update feature set to "Ask" or "Never," or you'll be right back into 12.1.10
o99