problems with live electronics environment

[tiago_vla]

Objective:
I need assistance in creating a *.bat script that will:

Execute a Python script designed to:
Collect sensor data from a gamepad controller
Transmit the data via Open Sound Control (OSC)
Launch Ableton Live Standard with a specific session containing:
A Control Voltage (CV) Max for Live (M4L) device
Any additional required components

***

@echo off
:: Enhanced Triple Launcher with error handling

setlocal

echo Launching applications...
echo.

:: 1. Launch Python script
if exist "%~dp0gamepad.py" (
echo Starting Python script...
start "" /D "%~dp0" python "gamepad.py"
) else (
echo ERROR: gamepad.py not found at "%~dp0gamepad.py"
)

:: 2. Launch Processing GUI
if exist "%~dp0gui\windows-amd64\gui.exe" (
echo Starting Processing GUI...
start "" /D "%~dp0gui\windows-amd64" "gui.exe"
) else (
echo ERROR: gui.exe not found at "%~dp0gui\windows-amd64\gui.exe"
dir "%~dp0gui\windows-amd64" /s
)

:: 3. Launch Ableton
if exist "C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 10 Standard\Program\Ableton Live 10 Standard.exe" (
if exist "%~dp0cv5_.als" (
echo Starting Ableton with session file...
start "" "C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 10 Standard\Program\Ableton Live 10 Standard.exe" "%~dp0cv5_.als"
) else (
echo ERROR: Session file cv5_.als not found at "%~dp0cv5_.als"
)
) else (
echo ERROR: Ableton not found at standard location
)

echo.
echo All launch commands executed.
timeout /t 5
exit

***

here is the python gamepad module::

import pygame
from pythonosc import udp_client
import time

# Initialize Pygame and the joystick module
pygame.init()
pygame.joystick.init()

# Check for at least one joystick
if pygame.joystick.get_count() == 0:
print("No joystick/gamepad found!")
exit()

# Use the first joystick
joystick = pygame.joystick.Joystick(0)
joystick.init()
print(f"Using joystick: {joystick.get_name()}")

# Set up the OSC client
osc_ip = "127.0.0.1" # Change this to your OSC server IP
osc_port = 8000 # Change this to your desired OSC port
client = udp_client.SimpleUDPClient(osc_ip, osc_port)

# Helper function to send joystick data
def send_joystick_data():
pygame.event.pump() # Update Pygame events

# Send axis data
for i in range(joystick.get_numaxes()):
axis = joystick.get_axis(i)
client.send_message(f"/gamepad/axis/{i}", axis)
time.sleep(0.02) # 5 milliseconds delay to prevent UDP overload

# Send button data
for i in range(joystick.get_numbuttons()):
button = joystick.get_button(i)
client.send_message(f"/gamepad/button/{i}", button)
time.sleep(0.02) # 5 milliseconds delay to prevent UDP overload

# Send hat (D-pad) data
for i in range(joystick.get_numhats()):
hat = joystick.get_hat(i)
client.send_message(f"/gamepad/hat/{i}", hat)
time.sleep(0.02) # 5 milliseconds delay to prevent UDP overload

# Main loop
try:
print("Streaming gamepad data over OSC...")
while True:
send_joystick_data()
time.sleep(0.01) # Limit sending rate (~100Hz)
except KeyboardInterrupt:
print("\nStopped by user")
finally:
pygame.quit()

***

regarding the m4l devices:

- a device containing:
- an udp receive mapped to port 8000
- 12 MapButton.maxpat devices

a device containing:
- two beap oscillators mapped to LFOs


a standard LFO mapped to the MapButton thing

***

my doubts:

- the *.bat script is not executing live;
- the python script was initially working and i was able to collect the data in max, but:
- now i have a dumpout error message, and i am not being able to collect sensor data in ableton;
- the python script is still running correctly;
- i am not being able to currently open my m4l patches in ableton (any of the devices i open are opening, but max is getting prompted, and i just can't open the patches)

***

what am i doing uncorrectly

***

now here is the osc thing (it just misses the mapbutton.maxpat:


<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

***

and here is the beap stuff

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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

***

import oscP5.*;
import netP5.*;
import controlP5.*;

OscP5 oscP5;
ControlP5 cp5;

float[] axisValues = new float[8];
int[] buttonValues = new int[16];
int[][] hatValues = new int[4][2];

// GUI elements
Slider[] axisSliders;
Toggle[] buttonToggles;
Textlabel[] hatLabels;

void setup() {
fullScreen();
// size(600, 600);
frameRate(60);

// Start OSC
oscP5 = new OscP5(this, 8000);

// Setup GUI
cp5 = new ControlP5(this);

// Axis sliders
axisSliders = new Slider[axisValues.length];
for (int i = 0; i < axisValues.length; i++) {
axisSliders = cp5.addSlider("Axis " + i)
.setPosition(20, 40 + i * 30)
.setSize(150, 20)
.setRange(-1, 1)
.setValue(0);
}

// Button toggles
buttonToggles = new Toggle[buttonValues.length];
for (int i = 0; i < buttonValues.length; i++) {
buttonToggles = cp5.addToggle("Button " + i)
.setPosition(200 + (i % 4) * 80, 40 + (i / 4) * 30)
.setSize(60, 20)
.setValue(false);
}

// Hat labels
hatLabels = new Textlabel[hatValues.length];
for (int i = 0; i < hatValues.length; i++) {
hatLabels = cp5.addTextlabel("Hat " + i)
.setPosition(20, 300 + i * 25)
.setText("Hat " + i + ": (0, 0)");
}
}

void draw() {
background(0);
fill(255);
textSize(16);
text("Gamepad OSC to ControlP5 GUI", 20, 20);
}

void oscEvent(OscMessage m) {
String addr = m.addrPattern();
if (addr.startsWith("/gamepad/axis/")) {
int axisIndex = int(split(addr, '/')[3]);
if (axisIndex < axisValues.length) {
float val = m.get(0).floatValue();
axisValues[axisIndex] = val;
axisSliders[axisIndex].setValue(val);
}

} else if (addr.startsWith("/gamepad/button/")) {
int buttonIndex = int(split(addr, '/')[3]);
if (buttonIndex < buttonValues.length) {
int val = m.get(0).intValue();
buttonValues[buttonIndex] = val;
buttonToggles[buttonIndex].setState(val == 1);
}

} else if (addr.startsWith("/gamepad/hat/")) {
int hatIndex = int(split(addr, '/')[3]);
if (hatIndex < hatValues.length && m.arguments().length >= 2) {
int x = m.get(0).intValue();
int y = m.get(1).intValue();
hatValues[hatIndex][0] = x;
hatValues[hatIndex][1] = y;
hatLabels[hatIndex].setText("Hat " + hatIndex + ": (" + x + ", " + y + ")");
}
}
}

[tiago_vla]

regarding the prompted execution of ableton session alongside with python script, i think i may have found the session

the problem was the following:
- i needed two separate command instructions for running them both

the reason was:
- the python script was running continuously
- the python script was preventing ableton from running

***

here is the corrected version of the script:

***

@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion

:: =============================================
:: Ableton Live Launcher with Python Preloader
:: =============================================

:: Configuration
set ABLETON_PATH="C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 10 Standard\Program\Ableton Live 10 Standard.exe"
set PYTHON_SCRIPT="%~dp0gamepad.py"
set SESSION_FILE="%~dp0cv5.als"
set WAIT_TIME=3

:: Launch Python script in a NEW WINDOW (non-blocking)
echo Starting gamepad controller in new window...
start "Gamepad Controller" cmd /c python %PYTHON_SCRIPT%

:: Wait briefly to let Python initialize
timeout /t %WAIT_TIME% /nobreak >nul

:: Launch Ableton in main window
echo Launching Ableton Live...
start "" /D "%~dp0" %ABLETON_PATH% %SESSION_FILE%

echo Both processes started successfully!
echo - Python running in separate window
echo - Ableton Live launching in main window

:: Optional: Close this window after 5 seconds
timeout /t 5 /nobreak >nul
exit

***

the other problems persist

[tiago_vla]

regarding the issue of not receiving osc data and max not opening:
- i was running the ableton with dsp off

this was causing:
- malfunction instantiation (these features depend on ableton dsp to be activated, and of continuous schedulling of audio rate ableton dsp), which:
- was making ableton stuck

to fix this:
- turn ableton dsp on

it would be interested if:
- this bug could be fixed (both in older and newer versions of live, within major releases)

[tiago_vla]

now:
- i would just fix this to get more continuous data

***

import pygame
from pythonosc import udp_client
import time

# Initialize Pygame and the joystick module
pygame.init()
pygame.joystick.init()

# Check for at least one joystick
if pygame.joystick.get_count() == 0:
print("No joystick/gamepad found!")
exit()

# Use the first joystick
joystick = pygame.joystick.Joystick(0)
joystick.init()
print(f"Using joystick: {joystick.get_name()}")

# Set up the OSC client
osc_ip = "127.0.0.1" # Change this to your OSC server IP
osc_port = 8000 # Change this to your desired OSC port
client = udp_client.SimpleUDPClient(osc_ip, osc_port)

# Helper function to send joystick data
def send_joystick_data():
pygame.event.pump() # Update Pygame events

# Send axis data
for i in range(joystick.get_numaxes()):
axis = joystick.get_axis(i)
client.send_message(f"/gamepad/axis/{i}", axis)

# Send button data
for i in range(joystick.get_numbuttons()):
button = joystick.get_button(i)
client.send_message(f"/gamepad/button/{i}", button)

# Send hat (D-pad) data
for i in range(joystick.get_numhats()):
hat = joystick.get_hat(i)
client.send_message(f"/gamepad/hat/{i}", hat)

# Main loop
try:
print("Streaming gamepad data over OSC...")
while True:
send_joystick_data()
time.sleep(0.01) # Limit sending rate (~100Hz)
except KeyboardInterrupt:
print("\nStopped by user")
finally:
pygame.quit()

[tiago_vla]

now here is the osc thing (it just misses the mapbutton.maxpat:


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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

[tiago_vla]

and here is the beap stuff

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[tiago_vla]

so, now:
- I am missing the osc->parameter mappings (shall be fixed by the end of the day);
- I am missing the mapping logics

I shall have it fixed by the end of the day. at the time i will post my updates. I will leave this forum thread opened in case any doubts may occur

[tiago_vla]

I am getting my dsp frozen with cpu overload at times
even just with a couple devices and nothing like way too wild

[tiago_vla]

by the way, is there like a touchdesigner visualization you guys can recommend me for this?
or a video tutorial? specially if it's focused on audio reactive gpu particle systems?
cheers

[tiago_vla]

the reason why the dsp is getting stuck and overloaded may simply be:
- the fact that i am running the asio4all drivers with clam 2 Bluetooth headphones

the bluetooth audio streaming via ASIO may be getting the audio to overload
a possible mean to fix this is: using the ASIO driver with focusrite scarlett solo either via asio4all or common asio