Warp Markers to Midi Clip

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sofaloafer
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Warp Markers to Midi Clip

Post by sofaloafer » Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:53 pm

Hi

I was working on some beats today and found myself wishing for this feature.

I had a bunch of 4 bar, warped percussion loops that I wanted to replace all the individual hits with new samples in Impulse whilst retaining the exact rhythmic pattern. The only way I could manage this was by manually re-programming each pattern into a new midi clip - not a problem, just time consuming (I know I could have done this by creating midi files with Recycle...but I don't have it).

So, it got me thinking. if an audio clip has a warp marker on each hit then a "Warp Marker to Midi Clip" could create a new midi clip with a short midi note in the same place in the bar as it's equivalent warp marker. Obviously there would be no pitch info for the midi notes but even if they defaulted to C3 the notes could be easily moved on to the relevant notes.

Alternatively, this could be taken a step further by being able to Ctrl-Click each warp marker (as you would if you were to 'warp from here') and assign a midi note value (or even BD, Snare, Closed Hat etc) to each warp marker before converting to a midi clip.

Anyway, not sure if I'm the only person that would find this useful but I thought I would make the suggestion.

:)

signal
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Re: Warp Markers to Midi Clip

Post by signal » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:19 am

I wholeheartedly agree. I suggested this in a post last week and got no response. Your control click idea for adjusting notes is a good one; I hadn't thought of that.

I think a dedicated MIDI note assignment envelope with resolution tied to the warped segments would do the trick as well.

In the audio clip properties, select a MIDI Note option from the envelope list. This is used to edit an envelope similar to the Pitch envelope. Instead of +/- pitch in semitones when moving the center line up or down, the Note for each warped segment would be changed. Like you say, the default could be C3.

This way, it would be possible to select multiple segments tied to similar sounds and drag them to the same note. All kicks stay at C3; all snare, hat, tom segments go to other notes. Then export as a MIDI clip and the pattern is ready for Impulse, etc. and new sounds.
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Post by Machinate » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:28 am

hey sofaloafer. As a temporary workaround you could use the KTDrumtrigger to send the midi timing to a different track. add a Random midi plugin and you could go a long way with that setup alone.
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sofaloafer
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Post by sofaloafer » Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:03 am

Signal - Sorry, I did search before posting but never saw your post. Nice ideas. I guess the main point is here is that there are many different ways to create an elegant solution for this without cluttering up the main interface with more options/buttons (which I don't think anyone wants).

Machinate - I'll give KTDrumtrigger a try..never used it before. I'm always looking for ways to save me actually having to do any programming ;)

signal
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Post by signal » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:29 pm

sofaloafer wrote:there are many different ways to create an elegant solution for this without cluttering up the main interface with more options/buttons
Totally and this seems like such a good way to expand upon work that most Live users have already done.

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