live 5 update/bugfixes

schildknecht · Post by **schildknecht** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:42 am

hi ableton team

it's about a month since live 5 was released.
since this initial release live 5 suffers from fundamental bugs.
at least from my point of view.

- send envelopes are not copied on clip level in session view.
- live5 crashes randomly when switching to/back from an external wave-editor.

my situation:
i opened former live 4 sessions in live5 and made several adjustment/development until i recognized the "envelope"-thing.
so i tried to switch back to live 4 but this doesn't work. live says "set could not be opened. set made with newer version of live. to many parameters/variables (or something like this). so for now i'm imbetween ...
starting with an earlier made, less developed set on live 4 and redo all my changes/additions. or continue working with l5 and redo all send-envelope settings when copying clips in session view.

for me this is an severe annoying issue.

i expect an application which is released to not suffer from such fundamental error.

nevertheless the app is cool as operator is.
come on - get it fixed...

regards schildknecht

elemental · Post by **elemental** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:32 pm

I would also like to know the status of the next update / bugfixes.

My main 2 gripes are :

severe memory leak problems, making me unable to continue working on 2 tracks that I need to finish. (see this thread http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25362)

not being able to move clips around quickly once a set gets to a certain size
(see http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24686)

Also the random clip start bug is annoying, but for me the above are preventing me from completing my work on time.

ntp · Post by **ntp** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:15 pm

Well, I can't let the undo.cfg problem go. I hear this has been around since Live 4 which is just sick. I can't save any work - this must be fixed!

This is link:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25213

An update would be nice. I'm assuming many of us visit this site daily to check for a status. Some regular form of communication would be appreciated.

wildcon · Post by **wildcon** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:47 pm

I agree,

I have been having some major problems that I've already posted.

There are significant bugs in the program.

My opinion is that as great as the enhancments and new features are in 5, it was released too soon and not sufficiently tested.

I'm happy enough to wait to get the problems sorted properly, although I'm not happy about forking out a lot of cash for such a buggy program.

Having been a Cubase user for many years I have got used to this situation, but I really thought Ableton wouldn't do the same.
Maybe the commercial pressures are kicking in.

Still think Live 5 is a fantastic product, but my confidence in the Abe's has taken a bit of a nosedive.

A posting acknowledging the issues and an approximate fix date would be extremely helpful.

schildknecht · Post by **schildknecht** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:44 pm

wildcon:
"Having been a Cubase user for many years ..."

i know exactly what you mean.

schildknecht

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:03 pm

And why Abletons have released Version 5 that is not ready yet?And after that the version 5.0.1?What the f..k they have done?I have pay 150 f....g euros for a version that is not ready yet.I am sorry if i speak so bad but they have to say somethink about.Another thing why they dont make optimitations for Mac computers?

I am sorry again but i have spended money since version 2 for a good programm but i think i have to go back to Cubase or Logic.
Cheers.

solovox · Post by **solovox** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:00 pm

Yep...I'm waiting for the update...and I wish it would come SOON. I'm leaving for Burning Man next week and I will be unable to play any of the new songs I've made in Live 5.

When playing sessions built in 4, Live 5 frequently does not play the clips back with the proper warping. This alone is a deal killer.

The program takes around 3 or 4 times longer to load.

Groove Agent does not work properly...the Groove Agent GUI itself has to be shown for it to start and stop properly. Turn the Groove Agent down with the GUI closed...and Groove Agent stops playing!

I'm giving up hope that the Abletons will have it ready by next week...I'll have to painstakingly transfer all the clips over to Live 4. What a pain! I really wish I had Beat Repeat for this week out in the desert...too bad.