Apple G3

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Gary
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Apple G3

Post by Gary » Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:10 am

I use a PC.
Never tried an Apple.
My son is givng me his old G3 laptop.
Will this run LIVE 2 and 3?
The only thing I'd use it for is in live performance situation where I would use a Foot MIDI controller to trigger scenes.
Does the G3 have enough horspower for this simple operation.
Does the G3 Laptop have a UBS socket for a Midi interface?
Thanks Guys,
Gary

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Post by Emissary » Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:22 am

my buddy uses his g3 to run live 5, just as long as you remember to freeze tracks and stay away from complex warp mode, and keep operator and other insrtuments down to as low a polyphony as possible, then you'll be fine

oh yeah and it should be fine for a midi interface

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Re: Apple G3

Post by noisetonepause » Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:24 am

Gary wrote:I use a PC.
Never tried an Apple.
My son is givng me his old G3 laptop.
Will this run LIVE 2 and 3?
Yeah, it'll run them. What's the exact spec? Speed, RAM, OS version?
The only thing I'd use it for is in live performance situation where I would use a Foot MIDI controller to trigger scenes.
Does the G3 have enough horspower for this simple operation.
The simplicity of this depends on how complex the scenes are.
Does the G3 Laptop have a UBS socket for a Midi interface?
Thanks Guys,
Gary
Errrrr... look for it? It most likely will have, unless it's one of the very first Powerbooks.

Thing is, MIDI via USB under OS9 (actually, MIDI in general before OSX) was quite hit-and-miss, using OMS and such. But if you got the right interface, it should work.

Can't really be of much more help... Short answer: if you only want a couple of tracks of audio and no effects, yes, you should be fine.

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It works

Post by The Mysterious Flying Pum » Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:28 am

I also use Live 5 on a G3 800Mhz with 384 RAM. I use it for live performance with a UC 33 (MIDI controller) and it is fine.
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Post by Gary » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:22 pm

Thanks guys!
I'll send my son some more questions and get back to you if I need to!
Much Appreciated!
Gary

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Post by Flowbee » Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:52 pm

I can run Live 5 on my 5-year-old "Pismo" Powerbook (G3/400Mhz, 512mb). Of course, things start to bog down with a couple of midi instruments running, too many effects, or complex warping. Freeze helps.
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Post by Gary » Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:17 pm

Guys:
Please forgive me cause I've been a PC man.
Do I need to get some kind of a quality Sound Card as I do with PC's
to use my son's G3 with LIVE?
Thanks
Gary

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Post by 3phase » Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:13 am

Gary wrote:Guys:
Please forgive me cause I've been a PC man.
Do I need to get some kind of a quality Sound Card as I do with PC's
to use my son's G3 with LIVE?
Thanks
Gary
The advantage off apple laptops is that the have good inbuild audio.
Of cause this dont reaches the quality as a RME hammerfall or similar but its way better than what you usually get with pc´s.
Depends on your needs. I know quite a few people that leave there audiointerfaces at home when they go on stage...

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Post by Gary » Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:09 am

Thanks, it's good to know musicians can use Apple laptops in a stand-alone setting. I'm axious to get it and see if I can get my midi foot controller to trigger scenes.

My use:
I'm just going to load "already processed" wav files in and trigger. I don't plan to use LIVE for much warping or plugs in a live entertainment arena.

I was in Maui and watched some Jawaiin brudda's kickin' up a great show. I went to talk to them on their break and find their "sequencer of choice".
To my surprise their response was " me and da brudda's have too much trouble with all that tech stuff on stage. We just program da thing at home, mix down to a stereo file and run it through Windows Media Player for da live shows".

I thought - What a novel idea!"
Thanks again,
Gary

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Should be enough

Post by The Mysterious Flying Pum » Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:08 am

Hi Gary,
Should be enough for what you want to do. On stage, I use 8 audio tracks in parallel without problem + a filter on each track + 1 main delay. I also use the internal soundcard which is pretty good with low latency (5 ms).
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Re: Should be enough

Post by forge » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:52 pm

The Mysterious Flying Pum wrote:Hi Gary,
Should be enough for what you want to do. On stage, I use 8 audio tracks in parallel without problem + a filter on each track + 1 main delay. I also use the internal soundcard which is pretty good with low latency (5 ms).
Brgds
G3 powerbooks go all the way down to about 233 mhz and I'd be surprised if you could get much out of one of those - more importantly if it's pre-USB you'll find very few things you can do with it now.

If the echo indigo pc-card sound cards work on it then it might be more useful - I'm sure you could run a couple of tracks to do a DJ style set - but I wouldnt hold your breath for anything more

If it's more than about 500mhz you might find it a little more useful, but I've had a 266mhz wall street and a 400mhz pismo and it wasnt until I upgraded the pismo to a 900mhz chip and gave it a gig of ram that it became really useful. But it is now though.

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Re: Should be enough

Post by noisetonepause » Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:00 pm

forge wrote:If it's more than about 500mhz you might find it a little more useful, but I've had a 266mhz wall street and a 400mhz pismo and it wasnt until I upgraded the pismo to a 900mhz chip and gave it a gig of ram that it became really useful. But it is now though.
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Post by Gary » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:12 pm

I got the specs from my son's G3:

500 mhz G3, 2 usb 1.2, 1 Firewire 400, cd writer / dvd combo drive, 12" screen, 386 meg of RAM. RGB out with 15 pin adapter for hooking it up to a moniter, headphone jack.

Not sure of the OS yet, but MIDI sport 2x2 USB requires: MAC OS 8.6


Any comments welcome!
Thanks to all of you,
Gary

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Post by noisetonepause » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:38 pm

If you don't want it I do ;)

You'll get some milage out of that, I'm sure. Probably best to use OS9 though, as all the graphics stuff on X might kill it.

Good luck, though - if nothing else, it's a really beautiful computer.

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