mosca wrote:but hey lets show some love for DJ's who seem to be taking the easy route with live and using it to 'stop having to beatmatch' and lets diss the DJ's who are actually using live in an exciting and forward thinking manner.
in fact, no, sorry i have no love for people like s*sha and PVD - the only reason they are using live is because traktor looks too complicated
i'd rather slide down a razor blade into a bucket of iodine than get sucked into one of these pointless threads more often than not, but:
you lost me with your first paragraph in the quote above. is this "double sarcasm"? or are you implying that i had anything negative to imply about what james does? i didnt
the most annoying thing about these threads is:
- DJs like sasha and PVD have not only been DJing, but they've also been producing and remixing tracks for YEARS.
the assumption is made that because they're well known in the public mind for playing "other peoples music" is seen as some kind of a handicap.
because its just plain "more cool" and "underground" to judge them superficially and piss all over them anonymously, than it is to either say something postive or just plain STFU.
when actually in both cases - regardless of whether you like the kind of stuff theyre playing at any given time or not - they have innovated in various areas - and theyve been doing this professionally for a long, long time.
also:
the assumption that because someone is basing thier presentation around primarily "other peoples music" - ie. a "DJ" - that this means that they are merely monkeys matching up other peoples creative output is a narrowminded and elitest perspective.
truth is they ARE taking up Live to innovate again, there are worlds of things you can do primarily playing "other peoples music" with this program, and if you do it well its very exiting and enjoyable for thousands opon thousands of people.
i see absolutely nothing wrong with that. i also see absolutely no reason - other than, like i said, to puff up someones private sense of artistic merit - why someone would persistantly come onto a forum like this and bitch about what other people are doing with the software, and why what THEY are doing is soooo much better.
fucking *yawn*. im glad they're taking up ableton, imo if they do it well and keep pushing some boundaries with it they pave the way and take a lot of heat for doing it, makes it a lot more acceptable in the next few years for those of us who want to do it without everyone thinking we're up there pressing buttons
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