Scotland ‘the most violent country in the developed world’

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:39 am

nahhh surely not!

http://www.trackitdown.net/news/100104.html

mosca · Post by **mosca** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:56 am

aye it is so don't fuckin get wide ya radge

amo · Post by **amo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:59 am

France arrives fast ! Again 900 cars burnt last night, I think it lust be between 2000 and 3000 the last 9 days.... Along with schools, factories, public and private businesses.....

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:10 pm

geeezus!

France is going mad!

the thing that's even more amazing is the lack of any publicity - I knew nothing about it

here is the Yahoo UK/Ireland news stories:

# Hunts ride out despite dogs ban
# • Former envoy says Iraq war fuelled terrorism at home
# • Thousands protest Bush at Americas summit
# • Sun editor downplays arrest in husband row
# • Jennifer Aniston tackles infidelity in 'Derailed'
# • Madonna steals show at MTV Europe awards
# • Fireballs spark UFO speculation

and the Australian one:
• Australia warns of militant attacks in Indonesia by year's end
• ALP questions PM's record on security
• Release Treasury advice on IR: ALP
• Thailand to produce generic treatment for bird flu
• Northern Marianas goes to the polls
• Prince Charles, Camilla land in San Francisco
• Kinky Friedman melds Texas politics, reality TV

the world news story is:
English hunts ride out despite ban on dogs

fuck me that's scary, paris is in that kind of state and it's not even in the news, okay sure it's yahoo but still I would have though it would mention that

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:17 pm

"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?

amo · Post by **amo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:20 pm

France has always had an outside policy that doesn't reflect the actual french society, but some beautifull ideas and principles. I'm sure the french state pushes not to be exposed too much in world news, and keep it's image of "the country of freedom of speech and enlightened culture"... Nothing more wrong than that. It's the past. It is a french tradition.

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:27 pm

noisetonepause wrote:"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?

niklas have you ever lived in the UK? I've noticed over time that you seem to know a fair bit of British culture.

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:29 pm

amo wrote:France has always had an outside policy that doesn't reflect the actual french society, but some beautifull ideas and principles. I'm sure the french state pushes not to be exposed too much in world news, and keep it's image of "the country of freedom of speech and enlightened culture"... Nothing more wrong than that. It's the past. It is a french tradition.

yeah but when the Djakarta riots happened a couple of years ago I remember reading about Journalists sitting in hotel balconies plugging their Dig Cameras into their laptops then mobile phones and emailing images INSTANTLY.

Sounds to me like more to do with selective broadcasting OUTSIDE France

amo · Post by **amo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:32 pm

forge wrote:
amo wrote:France has always had an outside policy that doesn't reflect the actual french society, but some beautifull ideas and principles. I'm sure the french state pushes not to be exposed too much in world news, and keep it's image of "the country of freedom of speech and enlightened culture"... Nothing more wrong than that. It's the past. It is a french tradition.
yeah but when the Djakarta riots happened a couple of years ago I remember reading about Journalists sitting in hotel balconies plugging their Dig Cameras into their laptops then mobile phones and emailing images INSTANTLY.

Sounds to me like more to do with selective broadcasting OUTSIDE France

I believe it's somehow related....

amo · Post by **amo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:02 pm

Here are some images for those who don't get news....
http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/societe/ ... S4068.html

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:16 pm

I think the lack of reporting outside France is because there is a theory that rioting can spread by others being informed it is happening elsewhere. This was developed during the Brixton / Toxteth / most places riots during the '80s and later in the US, (LA riots)

Since then the policy has been to downlplay rioting incase it sparks 'copycat' riots!

Ironic really, considering the general background of "does TV/video game violence inspire real world violence?"

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:21 pm

forge wrote:
noisetonepause wrote:"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?
niklas have you ever lived in the UK? I've noticed over time that you seem to know a fair bit of British culture.

My first visit was this June... but we do get the Clash here in clogland, y'kna..

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:27 pm

noisetonepause wrote:
forge wrote:
noisetonepause wrote:"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?
niklas have you ever lived in the UK? I've noticed over time that you seem to know a fair bit of British culture.
My first visit was this June... but we do get the Clash here in clogland, y'kna..

he he..I did say "I've noticed over time"

amo · Post by **amo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:31 pm

Angstrom wrote:I think the lack of reporting outside France is because there is a theory that rioting can spread by others being informed it is happening elsewhere. This was developed during the Brixton / Toxteth / most places riots during the '80s and later in the US, (LA riots)

Since then the policy has been to downlplay rioting incase it sparks 'copycat' riots!

Ironic really, considering the general background of "does TV/video game violence inspire real world violence?"

True, and the spreading in other parts of france has to do with the medias for sure... but how to avoid that, I donno.

peeddrroo · Post by **peeddrroo** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:42 pm

makes me feel i have to go burn a car.
everybody does it. why not me?

where are the goddam matches?...