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Scotland ‘the most violent country in the developed world’

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:39 am
by forge

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:56 am
by mosca
aye it is so don't fuckin get wide ya radge :D

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:59 am
by amo
France arrives fast ! Again 900 cars burnt last night, I think it lust be between 2000 and 3000 the last 9 days.... Along with schools, factories, public and private businesses.....

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:10 pm
by forge
geeezus!

France is going mad!

the thing that's even more amazing is the lack of any publicity - I knew nothing about it

here is the Yahoo UK/Ireland news stories:

# Hunts ride out despite dogs ban
# • Former envoy says Iraq war fuelled terrorism at home
# • Thousands protest Bush at Americas summit
# • Sun editor downplays arrest in husband row
# • Jennifer Aniston tackles infidelity in 'Derailed'
# • Madonna steals show at MTV Europe awards
# • Fireballs spark UFO speculation


and the Australian one:
• Australia warns of militant attacks in Indonesia by year's end
• ALP questions PM's record on security
• Release Treasury advice on IR: ALP
• Thailand to produce generic treatment for bird flu
• Northern Marianas goes to the polls
• Prince Charles, Camilla land in San Francisco
• Kinky Friedman melds Texas politics, reality TV

the world news story is:
English hunts ride out despite ban on dogs


fuck me that's scary, paris is in that kind of state and it's not even in the news, okay sure it's yahoo but still I would have though it would mention that

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:17 pm
by noisetonepause
"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:20 pm
by amo
France has always had an outside policy that doesn't reflect the actual french society, but some beautifull ideas and principles. I'm sure the french state pushes not to be exposed too much in world news, and keep it's image of "the country of freedom of speech and enlightened culture"... Nothing more wrong than that. It's the past. It is a french tradition.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:27 pm
by forge
noisetonepause wrote:"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?
niklas have you ever lived in the UK? I've noticed over time that you seem to know a fair bit of British culture.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:29 pm
by forge
amo wrote:France has always had an outside policy that doesn't reflect the actual french society, but some beautifull ideas and principles. I'm sure the french state pushes not to be exposed too much in world news, and keep it's image of "the country of freedom of speech and enlightened culture"... Nothing more wrong than that. It's the past. It is a french tradition.
yeah but when the Djakarta riots happened a couple of years ago I remember reading about Journalists sitting in hotel balconies plugging their Dig Cameras into their laptops then mobile phones and emailing images INSTANTLY.

Sounds to me like more to do with selective broadcasting OUTSIDE France

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:32 pm
by amo
forge wrote:
amo wrote:France has always had an outside policy that doesn't reflect the actual french society, but some beautifull ideas and principles. I'm sure the french state pushes not to be exposed too much in world news, and keep it's image of "the country of freedom of speech and enlightened culture"... Nothing more wrong than that. It's the past. It is a french tradition.
yeah but when the Djakarta riots happened a couple of years ago I remember reading about Journalists sitting in hotel balconies plugging their Dig Cameras into their laptops then mobile phones and emailing images INSTANTLY.

Sounds to me like more to do with selective broadcasting OUTSIDE France
I believe it's somehow related....

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:02 pm
by amo
Here are some images for those who don't get news....
http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/societe/ ... S4068.html

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:16 pm
by Angstrom
I think the lack of reporting outside France is because there is a theory that rioting can spread by others being informed it is happening elsewhere. This was developed during the Brixton / Toxteth / most places riots during the '80s and later in the US, (LA riots)

Since then the policy has been to downlplay rioting incase it sparks 'copycat' riots!

Ironic really, considering the general background of "does TV/video game violence inspire real world violence?"

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:21 pm
by noisetonepause
forge wrote:
noisetonepause wrote:"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?
niklas have you ever lived in the UK? I've noticed over time that you seem to know a fair bit of British culture.
My first visit was this June... but we do get the Clash here in clogland, y'kna..

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:27 pm
by forge
noisetonepause wrote:
forge wrote:
noisetonepause wrote:"You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer to... oh-oh, the guns of les banlieues"?
niklas have you ever lived in the UK? I've noticed over time that you seem to know a fair bit of British culture.
My first visit was this June... but we do get the Clash here in clogland, y'kna..
he he..I did say "I've noticed over time"

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:31 pm
by amo
Angstrom wrote:I think the lack of reporting outside France is because there is a theory that rioting can spread by others being informed it is happening elsewhere. This was developed during the Brixton / Toxteth / most places riots during the '80s and later in the US, (LA riots)

Since then the policy has been to downlplay rioting incase it sparks 'copycat' riots!

Ironic really, considering the general background of "does TV/video game violence inspire real world violence?"
True, and the spreading in other parts of france has to do with the medias for sure... but how to avoid that, I donno.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:42 pm
by peeddrroo
makes me feel i have to go burn a car.
everybody does it. why not me?

where are the goddam matches?...