Hair? Metal? Bass Solo? Check!
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muthafunka
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billy sheehan was in a band called Talas at one time .. for a long time, actually .. they used to tour the northeastern US and even back then (early 90s i think) he was amazing at that style of bass shredding and legendary for it
met him, really cool guy from what i could see
i do think after a certain point that kind of gymnastics has less and less to do with music as it does indulgence and image.
i mean you have to admire the amount of obsessive hours it takes to drill on scales and finger exercises to get to that point .. but no matter how fast you can play and how many tricks you can pull off up there by yourself it all just ends up blending into "really fast electric bass ... cool ... ok, next?" after a minute or two.
that whole "metal chops" syndrome was more about proving how amazing you are and how much "better" you are then other rockers, and intimidating the ones that buy into the "speed makes you godly" mythos
its an alpha male ego game. kind of like when rappers always yelling about the otha punk ass niggas .. this becomes the point of what they do. not music. same thing imo.
van halen was the first and the master at that kind of playing. he never really lost the musicality and the soul of it. most of the guys that came after him were copying that, trying to emulate him and ending up doing these long wankfests
but this is just my opinion, i used to be a rocker i know how a lot of them think
met him, really cool guy from what i could see
i do think after a certain point that kind of gymnastics has less and less to do with music as it does indulgence and image.
i mean you have to admire the amount of obsessive hours it takes to drill on scales and finger exercises to get to that point .. but no matter how fast you can play and how many tricks you can pull off up there by yourself it all just ends up blending into "really fast electric bass ... cool ... ok, next?" after a minute or two.
that whole "metal chops" syndrome was more about proving how amazing you are and how much "better" you are then other rockers, and intimidating the ones that buy into the "speed makes you godly" mythos
its an alpha male ego game. kind of like when rappers always yelling about the otha punk ass niggas .. this becomes the point of what they do. not music. same thing imo.
van halen was the first and the master at that kind of playing. he never really lost the musicality and the soul of it. most of the guys that came after him were copying that, trying to emulate him and ending up doing these long wankfests
but this is just my opinion, i used to be a rocker i know how a lot of them think
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That song was THE beat-off bass song of all time.
When I was in high school, I remember all the other kids in the garage bands I'd play in would go on & on about Billy Sheehan like WOW. Being a bassist, I bought a couple of Mr Big CD's thinking I really should be into these types of virtuoso players if I'm gonna be serious about it. I could always appreciate the technique and chops but could never get into the music.
It's music for non-musicians who think it's music that musicians would like.
Needless to say, a couple years ago I finally dumped some old CD's from my collection and the Billy Sheehan stuff was the first to go.
I had some Stu Hamm CD's on the pile I got rid of too.
When I was in high school, I remember all the other kids in the garage bands I'd play in would go on & on about Billy Sheehan like WOW. Being a bassist, I bought a couple of Mr Big CD's thinking I really should be into these types of virtuoso players if I'm gonna be serious about it. I could always appreciate the technique and chops but could never get into the music.
It's music for non-musicians who think it's music that musicians would like.
Needless to say, a couple years ago I finally dumped some old CD's from my collection and the Billy Sheehan stuff was the first to go.
I had some Stu Hamm CD's on the pile I got rid of too.
thats sick!
however, i see your bass solo and raise you a double guitar
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/603/
lol!
however, i see your bass solo and raise you a double guitar
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/603/
lol!
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I'm unconvinced that the clothing in question here can scientifically be identified as 'jeans'. I think what we have here is a grown man in a unitard.am wrote: they are some of the tightest black jeans i have ever seen.... shudder....
Damn those were different times, eh? There was a point in the eighties when 8 of the songs on the billboard top 10 were hair metal ballads. Are things better or worse these days? It's hard to say. Before there was Auto-tune, man would turn to hairspray, make-up, and tights in an effort to harness musical perfection.
I only wish there were more shots of the crowd. You gotta love of the odd dichotomy of the dirt-bag tough guy in the crowd pumping his fists in awe at the feet of a gleaming, bleached and teased, electrified hermaphrodite. I mean, what the hell is going on here?
That was my first taste of Google Video. That's a great feature. Go to the main page and check out the popular clips. There is one called Everything Is Gay that was pretty funny.
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spiderprod
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A few observations.
1. The dual would be a lot more interesting if it were to the death.
2. It was all dudes in the audience.
3. Billy Sheehan kicks ass.
1. The dual would be a lot more interesting if it were to the death.
2. It was all dudes in the audience.
3. Billy Sheehan kicks ass.
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ouch... that has to be the single most ugly thing I've ever seen!atmofunk wrote:thats sick!
however, i see your bass solo and raise you a double guitar
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/603/
lol!
--the guitar was fugly as well...
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that was a good laugh, for a minute... twenty years ago, i would have loved such a heroic performance (man, that stance... ), now, all i can say is: listen to cliff burton's anesthesia/pulling teetha bass solo on metallica's kill 'em all album. so much more musical. and cliff was ubercool. sad he left this world too soon. especially for metallica, because after 'and justice...' it has been one deep fall... or was that just me, realizing metal is so wrong...?
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The guitarist from Drums and Tuba can play a mean double-guitar...but with class, funk, and musicality. I highly recommend seeing them live if you get a chance...I think they may even be using Live!
I respect Cliff a great deal, it was really cool what he was doing "at thenow, all i can say is: listen to cliff burton's anesthesia/pulling teetha bass
solo on metallica's kill 'em all album. so much more musical.
time". However if you listen to it with fresh ears I'm sure you will agree
that the bass solo is VERY VERY boring. All he does is go around and
around on a few notes of the pentatonic scale with distrotion on waving his
hair. It's nothing dood.
Checkout Jaca Pastorius. End of story.
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