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charles-l
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by charles-l » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:38 am
hi guys
i have made a new track on ableton and its a bit of direction i've taken
so would you please take a few minuntes of your time to tell me what you think
http://www.silver-kyoto.com/page2.htm
the track is
Shenzhen
cheers charles-l aka diomed

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westmonster
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by westmonster » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:57 am
hey dude
soundzzz great
like cool mix of styles way to go, nice how the track goes in a good direction that you can't tell
very beautiful and drifting away
westmonster

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by westmonster » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:59 am
hey also heard the other track on there glacerscarper
man cool but very moody too
the new track i like better more uplifting but still cool

westM
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charles-l
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by charles-l » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:36 pm
come on please can someone give me an opinion

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by nebulae » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:04 pm
shenzhen should be called shenSHIT!
Just kidding, dude, this is a gorgeous song. I love how it starts soft and then gets you into an analogish old school vibe. I love the human doos...very nice.
If I could change anything in the song, it might be the following:
1. I might not have the sampled strings that are coming in from the left. They sound a bit campy. Now if you're going for that "sampled" sound, then you're spot on. But that sound could be a analog pad or something a bit less sampled. If going for strings, I'd say get something much more real sounding.
2. I'd also say that the kick drum in the song sounds really synthetic, but not strong enough. Perhaps a bit less clicky and a but more chunky and thicker? It doesn't need to be a dance kick, but it could have more meat. How about running a reverb on the kick for some depth.
3. Add some compression to the final master to thicken the song a bit. It sounds a bit think to me. Mastering this would fix that in a jiffy. Consider some sort of tube compressor in the final mix.
Hope this helps...keep up the great work!
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charles-l
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by charles-l » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:12 am
cheers
i'll take the tips on board - because really this track was ground breaking for me and it could have seemed really s**t to others so thanks for the tips - i feel that i do need to make changes to get a real good track
any other areas that need improvement?

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by nebulae » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:15 am
Well, as I alluded to before, you can take this song in two directions. You can have the percussive melody blend with natural instruments. But because there aren't a lot of drums or other things going on, the strings have to be REALLY convincing.
I'd recommend going the other route...use virtual analog synths and just make the whole thing bubbly and warm. Change that string to a pad/lead and filter it all over the place. Thicken the drums, and put some more depth in your entire mix.
Also, consider automating a reverb or a delay so that perhaps the third percussive note in the melody every other measure sends to a deep verb or a delay...just to add some additional depth, thereby creating a very interesting soundscape.
Let us know when you update the song.
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by Gary » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:05 am
I Like it!! Had to hear it twice!
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by charles-l » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:15 pm
cool
i wrote it for my gf who comes from shenzhen, china so i guess it does seem kind of senimental. but hey i just don't go down the soppy coldplay-esque root

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by InvizibleKid » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:17 pm
Nebulae is right I think. Those strings that come in at 1.04 are a bit wack. Try a different patch or synth with those. Perhaps try to make the bassline sequence at 2.11 a bit more 'organic' and less rigid if you can. I think the track could really benefit from some discretely applied hats, shakers and/or extra percussion too.
You've got some nice elements going on there though, good work. It reminds me a bit of Plaid.
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by charles-l » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:50 am
cheers guys i'll take that all on board
anymore views ok (constructive please)
charlie

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by ishimaru » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:51 am
InvizibleKid wrote:Nebulae is right I think. Those strings that come in at 1.04 are a bit wack. Try a different patch or synth with those. Perhaps try to make the bassline sequence at 2.11 a bit more 'organic' and less rigid if you can. I think the track could really benefit from some discretely applied hats, shakers and/or extra percussion too.
You've got some nice elements going on there though, good work. It reminds me a bit of Plaid.
I concur with the strings being wiggity-wack and it sounding a bit like Plaid.

good job
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