Getting rid of sublow mess

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Getting rid of sublow mess

Post by tomperson » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:14 pm

Hi,
The other day I was dealing with a bass sound (really deep, like in octaves 0 and 1) wich was almost a sine tone. It really added depth to my low range, but it also brought a lot of sublow mess to the mix (below 20hz). I added an eq3 to clean the thing, but wasn't enough. I added a second eq3, still getting mess. Tried using the simpler filter, set to high pass at 30 hz, still messy. Of course, I could turn up the cut frequency, but after that I started losing the "real" bass sound, instead of just cleaning the mess.

How do you deal with that? I'm becoming more and more interested in what's going on in the lowrange of my mixes, as I'm aware of how much you can clean the sound and get back headroom by paying attention...

Thanks!
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Post by mikemc » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:44 pm

try eq four instead, with about a 48hz rolloff
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Post by tomperson » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:06 pm

Tried that too. Wasn't really killing the sublows until I went to like, say, 60/70hz, and by then all the wanted depth of the bass sound was also gone.
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Post by rhythmtech » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:07 pm

run a notch along the freqs until it sounds ok to you.
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Post by mikemc » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:19 pm

rhythmtech wrote:run a notch along the freqs until it sounds ok to you.
right, try the 48hz rolloff but with a narrower Q.
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Post by Nod » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:36 pm

mikemc wrote:right, try the 48hz rolloff but with a narrower Q.
Or even run a pair of EQ's with the same settings to kill under 48. Stuff down there's got so much energy that sometimes a -12db cut just ain't enough...
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Post by mikemc » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:40 pm

Nod wrote:
mikemc wrote:right, try the 48hz rolloff but with a narrower Q.
Or even run a pair of EQ's with the same settings to kill under 48. Stuff down there's got so much energy that sometimes a -12db cut just ain't enough...
this is a very good point-- also, a spectrum analyzer might help to see where the heaviest sludge lurks...
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