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djfm · Post by **djfm** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:01 pm

im external hardrive just crashed and i lost all my mixes and tracks

there really is no safe place to store stuff apart from on disc. or is there ?

ILTK · Post by **ILTK** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:30 pm

That sucks

From my experience, another HD has been the thing that never failed, I have had older DVD/CD backups that has been sitting dark and at room temp. and just selfdestructed, I go check something on them and it's corrupted, and this was stuff that I had checked was working fine before, high quality mediums that were burnt at slow speeds, so to be sure you have to run a complete backup once every 6 months, to expensive.

I have been using These for a long time, they are rock solid and cheap. I have 2 on all my systems, one for the OS and the second for data, once a week I run a backup over the network to another box with one of them, after backup is done I put the drawer away in a safe place, it's also way way faster than using DVD/CDs-

I have a lot of HDs with old stuff I like to keep on them, like 8+ years old, the data are still in perfect condition and it's very quick to clone to a new drive if you get nervous and want a second clone.

Harddrives are so cheap now that it doesn't make much sence to use CD/DVDs anymore, to slow and not a lot cheaper.

marky · Post by **marky** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:37 pm

That does suck... though you know you should be able to get the tracks back if you go to a data recovery service .. but this can be expensive

I just last week bought my 3rd backup drive which I intend to use to clone my main drive. I've just got waaay too much stuff on my computer to risk losing it. Photos, music, work stuff, emails, etc etc..

Unfortunately it usually takes a scare like this to convince people that backing stuff up is critical.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:39 pm

djfm wrote: there really is no safe place to store stuff apart from on disc. or is there ?

there is. Redundancy is the way to go. I feel for your tracks, so get two disks and back up religiously...

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:41 pm

I have 3 external hard drives for my Ableton setup.

Two 250 gig drives are mirrored to each other for my music, and warp files.

Then I have a 160 gig drive which I use as a Norton Ghost image of the laptop hard drive, which is also 160 gigs.

If my laptop dies, I use the Ghost to return my programs and data. If the Ghost drive dies, I still have my music backed up twice.

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:49 pm

Same here. Been burned by having a hard drive crash hard. Fortunately, my insurance paid for the data to be recovered.

Now I use two mirrored 250GB external FW800 drives. I don't need to backup, as the system is backing itself up continuously. I periodically burn a DVD of the most important stuff and keep it off-site.

Hard drives are dirt-cheap nowadays. There really is no excuse for losing data any more.

chepnut · Post by **chepnut** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:34 am

There is a program called spinrite, I have used it many times to recover files from many a dead hard drive. it fits on a floppy and will basicly scan the entire surface of the drive and rewrite all of the data to good parts of the drive.

I have recovered drives that would not even spin up. Also you might want to put the drive in the freezer overnight (inside a static free bag). The cold shrinks the metal inside the drive and you might be able to get the data off of it after it has been frozen. I have done that a bunch of time also.

good luck

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:52 am

is it a physical failiure or just data loss?

dont use any program but R Studio, this is what the professionals use.

djfm · Post by **djfm** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:31 pm

data lo. I have formated the external drive now .So its all gone i managed to get some tracks back that were on my laptop

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:45 pm

Glad you were able to recover some of your stuff.

If it's any consolation, it's always easier to recreate your work the second time around, and it often ends up better, too.

Now pickup a cheap backup drive before it happens again...

stinky · Post by **stinky** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:08 pm

why, oh why, did you format?... When you said your harddrive crashed, i thought you meant, dead, as in never again usuable. If you can format it, you can restore what's on there. Man, oh man. You've probably just lost your partition table. There are loads of utilities out there that could restore those files, without having to go to an expensive data recovery shop. If you really want to get back those files, you won't touch the drive again.. don't put anything on it, don't format, nothing... nothing... do the research, and try some restore utilities.

Man, this happened to me with my external drive once. I used GetBack for NTFS, and it was fine... restored my stuff to another drive, reformatted the original drive, and walla, everything was back to normal.

stinky · Post by **stinky** » Tue May 23, 2006 3:09 pm

is it a physical failiure or just data loss?

dont use any program but R Studio, this is what the professionals use.

they use that and Ontrack

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