Sorry for my third dumb question in two days --
I am new to Live (using the Beta) and VST plugins, on a TiBook with 10.2.6.
I set up the VST folder in preferences, only no plugin is recognized in Live browser. I am only adding assorted freebies, and I realize Live won't play VSTi -- so am I choosing the wrong format? I tried 'regular' VST 2.0s and AUs, to no avail...
Thanks!
Jonathan
p.s. Yes, I have tried to give the online manual a thorough read.
searching for vst
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Alex Reynolds
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Live will not host AU instruments or effects.
Live will not host VST instruments, only VST effects.
To that end, Live appears only to host so-called carbonized ("Carbon-CFM") VST effects, and not native "Mach-O" VST effects.
When you download a plug-in, be sure to read the fine print with respect to its package format. If you're buying a plug-in package, ask the developers if the format is not clearly listed and you plan to use the plug-in within Live. Or you might get burnt.
One difference between CFM and Mach-O effects is down to how code objects are packaged (linked together) into the final product.
CFM was a holdover to allow developers to quickly (and thus inexpensively) port their OS 9 plug-ins to OS X, with minimal changes to code. Apple did this to encourage developers to transition software for OS X "back in the day".
Live itself is a Carbon-CFM application, for that matter. This is why it can run under both OS 9 and OS X.
Mach-O enables more direct, optimized, kernel-level access to other frameworks. Thus it is tied to the OS X platform and requires a rewrite of code.
Most audio developers have moved on to the Mach-O format for the advantages that it provides, so let us Mac OS X users hope and pray that Ableton plans to incorporate Mach-O (and AU) support into a not-so-distant future update so that we can begin to use the wealth of plug-ins to come.
-Alex
Live will not host VST instruments, only VST effects.
To that end, Live appears only to host so-called carbonized ("Carbon-CFM") VST effects, and not native "Mach-O" VST effects.
When you download a plug-in, be sure to read the fine print with respect to its package format. If you're buying a plug-in package, ask the developers if the format is not clearly listed and you plan to use the plug-in within Live. Or you might get burnt.
One difference between CFM and Mach-O effects is down to how code objects are packaged (linked together) into the final product.
CFM was a holdover to allow developers to quickly (and thus inexpensively) port their OS 9 plug-ins to OS X, with minimal changes to code. Apple did this to encourage developers to transition software for OS X "back in the day".
Live itself is a Carbon-CFM application, for that matter. This is why it can run under both OS 9 and OS X.
Mach-O enables more direct, optimized, kernel-level access to other frameworks. Thus it is tied to the OS X platform and requires a rewrite of code.
Most audio developers have moved on to the Mach-O format for the advantages that it provides, so let us Mac OS X users hope and pray that Ableton plans to incorporate Mach-O (and AU) support into a not-so-distant future update so that we can begin to use the wealth of plug-ins to come.
-Alex
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jeb52
Thanks very much Alex.
I could not find much fine print to read in free-VST land, however, I have thus far found these two which work fine with the Beta (in OSX):
http://www.soundhack.com/
(Decimate)
http://www.mda-vst.com
(bundle)
I could not find much fine print to read in free-VST land, however, I have thus far found these two which work fine with the Beta (in OSX):
http://www.soundhack.com/
(Decimate)
http://www.mda-vst.com
(bundle)