Cure for render clicks?

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:44 pm

How can I stop the nasty clicks when rendering? I can handle every bug but this I have no control of..

The clicks appear random. Sometimes even pops appear when there are no plugins inserted

What the heck?! Does somebody know a cure?
Thanks

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Sat May 27, 2006 12:52 pm

normalize option for rendering is off by the way ...
and clicks occure when "create analyze file" option is on and off

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Sat May 27, 2006 11:09 pm

.. it seems that if I render to aif, clicks are dissapeared

Im gonna try to render some more tunes. Lets hope this is a cure!

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:01 pm

ah darn... still NASTY CLICKS when rendering to AIF

... less clicks though but theyre still there

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:45 pm

set the buffer as high as it'll go before you render

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:58 pm

Buffer?

Please elaborate ...

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:03 pm

Do you mean the latency of the audiocard?

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:50 pm

I find that if I put -all- audio clips in the arrange view into ram, it gets rid of the clicks. It's the ONLY solution thats worked for me so far.
Good luck.

-Tim

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:29 pm

Hi Tim,

Thanks. I hope my two 512mb modules will hold all the samples and stuff ..

Cheers,
Tim

Raising the audiocard´s latency did´nt work by the way ...

snowtires · Post by **snowtires** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:18 pm

buffer as in, go to preferences and adjust the buffer so it has like, 10 million samples or whatever is the highest setting

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:23 pm

If I put all the samples into the ram, the ram then holds 1.15gb of data... Which is too much because Ableton will hang at 26% while rendering. The project is this big because I need to consolidate all the clips to get my performance and stability inside of Ableton Live back.

It seems that no matter what, Im always screwed

I think I will switch back to Pro Tools

... Hey, wait a minute!

Pro Tools! Maybe if I slave Ableton Live to Pro Tools and render Live´s session via the Pro Tools´ engine the nasty pops dissapear

.... .... Get back to you in a giffy!

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:37 pm

aarrghh... VST plugins are deactivated when using Live as a rewire slave .. bollocks .. guess I need to get pluggin´

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:03 pm

How do I run different channels from Live into different channels from PT? The main out (mix L - mix R) work but the remaining channels dont (bus 03 - bus 04) . I get no signal in Pro Tools. Any help?

EDIT: k, got it

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:13 pm

Two solutions so far ....

The Cure 1)
Raise the Plugin Buffer Size to the max (in the prefs, plugin page), as well as your audiocard´s latency.
Render to the same samplerate and bitrate as the project (so that Live doesnt need to convert the rendered audio file)
Set "Create Analyze File" in the render page "on"
Consolidate clips as much as possible

The Cure 2)
Dont use VST and/or AU effects on busses ( * when an application is in rewire slave-mode it can use no vst, vsti and au! ), instead drop those plugins on the appropriate track(s) and bounce the track(s) when you´re ready tweaking and automating the plugin. Then slave Ableton Live to your host rewire application and render your session through that host. Route seperate tracks through vst, rtas, au as you desire.

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:15 pm

well looks like you have to go to plan B.

1. Set up a new audio track.
2. Set it to resample and arm it.
3. Press rec and play.
4. Go have a coffe for 6 minutes

voila, no clicks