Apple Live?

claudek · Post by **claudek** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:32 pm

http://www.apple.com/soundtrack/

Alex Reynolds · Post by **Alex Reynolds** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 6:55 pm

Two things which these pages are not clear about:

-- how the beat matching works
-- what kind of control/record methods are available (MIDI)

But it does give the impression of many similarities.

-Alex

oink · Post by **oink** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:02 pm

The similarities are merely superficial. Both apps pitch-shift, stretch to tempo/beat-match, but thats where the similarities end.
Soundtrack is for non-musicians with media-editing skills, Live is for musicians.

dpel · Post by **dpel** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 7:29 pm

oink wrote:The similarities are merely superficial. Both apps pitch-shift, stretch to tempo/beat-match, but thats where the similarities end.
Soundtrack is for non-musicians with media-editing skills, Live is for musicians.

how do you know this?
have you tried it?
just curious

Credo · Post by **Credo** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:38 am

well I think the Apples have at least looked a lot at Live when designing the functions and behaviour of Soundtrack.

The browser, effects (not instruments?), arranger, automation, loop previwe, timestretching, beatmatching.

As far as I can see the big difference is the session view. I bet it comes in version 2.

these are guesses of course, since all info we have is a pic and a few specs.

It does not seem very pro, so the price is high I think.

Anyways Live is far far ahead.

C

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:07 am

Sounds like an updated eJay to me.

-Paws

ssonic · Post by **ssonic** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 10:21 am

Sounds like an updated eJay to me.

They should call it iJay

stew · Post by **stew** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:24 pm

noisetonepause wrote:Sounds like an updated eJay to me.

Hey! I used to work for eJay years ago!

Soundtrack appears to be clearly targeted towards video filmers that want to add sound to their movies without having to worry about keys, timings, etc. The way it is described on the Apple page does not make it appear as if it were a composing or performance tool.

bencodec · Post by **bencodec** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:45 pm

soundtrack is a stand alone version of a feature built into final cut. it's good for studio work, however not designed for live use. built by emagic.

ben

jamief · Post by **jamief** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:05 pm

more chat

http://forum.cubase.net/forum/Forum1/HTML/015606.html

best

claudek · Post by **claudek** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:42 pm

If it has Rewire support it could be cool..One good feature is it is Mac G4 optimized..Well things like this will only push Ableton to go further with Live..Live rocks.

tjwett not logged in · Post by **tjwett not logged in** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:22 pm

i'm not that confident this will offer much over Live. they weigh up like this to me; SoundTrack has a video layer for syncing, something i've always wanted in Live. SoundTrack is AltiVec optimised, Live is not. SoundTrack has a nice sample organization system. outside of that, i don't see much going on besides a basic looper, bet it has some good stretch algorithms though. Live still has it beat in interface. i watched the tour videos of SoundTrack and there seems to be a lot mousing around and menus. it looks alot like Final Cut. my impression is that it's not very musical and i envision most of the people buying this software just using the included loops and not taking to a real creative level. i'm guessing it will be a hit though among Flash web designers and videographers. i'm gonna try and get a copy through work and see how it is. i don't think it will take me away from Live, because we all know that the Abletons are working on G4 optimization and Audio Unit support as we speak and are going to make Live into a SoundTrack killer, right? wink wink, nudge nudge.

siddhu · Post by **siddhu** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:29 pm

Apparently, Apple hired one of the original developers of Acid to work on Soundtrack.

I rememebr reading on George massenburg's forum that he was working chez Apple for over a year.

disgusted · Post by **disgusted** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:56 pm

all I know is BT would sell out his grandmother if he thought he could get some free software for it. BT....Big Turd.

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Acid developer worked on Soundtrack