Angstrom looper and ableton team

anto · Post by **anto** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:35 pm

from ableton team told me they'll do not realize a plug like the fantastic armstrong looper on the version 6

i've tested about all the looper on the market (hardware and software), and the magical armstorng is near to the ideal loop;

i wish i could have soon a version of this jewel without the hum on the killing button (this fact made the tool unusable on live situations),
a reverse button
an automatic setting of the loop length (with the first loop)
an a/b double loop layer
an undo/redo button

with this other addistional features tihs will be the perfect looper for ableton and guitar (or other real instuments)

i'll pray the lord for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pleeease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Soma · Post by **Soma** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:28 pm

Have you tried mobius?

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1770.html

anto · Post by **anto** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:41 am

i think armstong is lighter, more ableton-like, and more user-friendly, probably is an istinctive opinion, but instinct is the most importanct factor due to valutale live-looping tools

Elec · Post by **Elec** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:48 am

Did you try angstro looper?

It´s great and it looks like an ableton plug in.
elec

P.S. Didn´t find the armstrong looper homepage, please post a link...

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:27 pm

heh,
voice of experience here

I suspect they are one and the same

jamesp · Post by **jamesp** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:03 pm

LiveStrom!

Dude, I've been lovin' on your looper lately!
What color is the bracelet?

anto · Post by **anto** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:03 pm

ehi, what is angstro looper?

probably is another name to call armstrong?
in this case there's the kill button problem! the kill button noise kills the possibility to use it in a live situation!!!
however this is the link of armstrong: http://www.plugins.timeshard.com/

ok, since now the best looper seems to be mobius, but to my taste is too complicate.
i've also guitar rig2, but the built in looper is without feedback rate and there's a sound break when youy change the gr2 patches,

so unfortunately the only way to loop is mobius,
please i would be happy if armstrong will release a version without hum!!!!

abletoff · Post by **abletoff** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:10 pm

stick angstrolooper on one send, when you have to kill the loop mute out the send, kill the loop, activate the send, loop-killing-confirmation-noise avoided

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:13 pm

damn that armstrong guy,

he should get his finger out and fix that shit !!

well, like I said to machinate - it's all to drive Ableton to do it properly. If I do it right , sorry if that Armstrong guy did it right, where would the incentive be for Ableton ?

really, I think the armstrong guy would be cool - he wouldn't mind if they used the gui style ! I hear he's real cool like that.

handsome too!

anto · Post by **anto** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:23 am

abletoff wrote:stick angstrolooper on one send, when you have to kill the loop mute out the send, kill the loop, activate the send, loop-killing-confirmation-noise avoided

well, but this can be only an half solution, and this is a muddy procedure, because you have to assign another pedal, and you have to push 2 buttons! when the armstrong will be fixed we'll have a jewel! i can't understand why there's no hurry on ableton team to produce a tool like that!!!!

i use AL with guitar rig2 (wich has a built in looper, but not good as armstrong or mobius), when I'll have also a good looper I'll have my dream tool!!!

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:36 am

anto wrote:
abletoff wrote:stick angstrolooper on one send, when you have to kill the loop mute out the send, kill the loop, activate the send, loop-killing-confirmation-noise avoided
well, but this can be only an half solution, and this is a muddy procedure, because you have to assign another pedal, and you have to push 2 buttons! when the armstrong will be fixed we'll have a jewel! i can't understand why there's no hurry on ableton team to produce a tool like that!!!!

i use AL with guitar rig2 (wich has a built in looper, but not good as armstrong or mobius), when I'll have also a good looper I'll have my dream tool!!!

use the "utility" trick - I use it for Livecut which seemes to be unstable when you use the on/off button

basically use 2 sends, on one of them (2nd one apparently is better for some reason - we'll say "B") put a utility plug-in on "B" with the "invert" preset then turn the send on the "B" return track for "A" all the way up and have on "A" the plug-in (angstro or livecut/whatever)

then assign a button/pedal whatever to the send "B" (for the utility) on the track you want to effect and it will go from 0-100% in one press (no need for 2 buttons)

the utility will phase invert and thus cancel out the original signal but at the same time send it to the effect so you get 100% effect in one button press without having to use on/off buttons

anto · Post by **anto** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:13 am

Soma wrote:Have you tried mobius?

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1770.html

hi, so i've decided to re-install mobius, but i've just seen a big problem:
it seems no possible assign midi functions when i use it as a vst plug in!!!!
(in stand alone it recieve midi signals, but not as vst)

I can't assign midi function from ableton "unfold devices parameter" because it shows only a few parameter

can you halp me????

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:50 pm

no sorry i cant help

...but wanted to say thanks to angstrom for his plugin, ive never really played with until this thread & i have to say its blown me away, gonna have a lot of fun with this. cheers

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:12 pm

anto wrote:
Soma wrote:Have you tried mobius?

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1770.html
hi, so i've decided to re-install mobius, but i've just seen a big problem:
it seems no possible assign midi functions when i use it as a vst plug in!!!!
(in stand alone it recieve midi signals, but not as vst)

I can't assign midi function from ableton "unfold devices parameter" because it shows only a few parameter

can you halp me????

Read the mobius documentation, it has its own midi implementation.

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:23 pm

did you try that utility trick?? it really works.