macIntel live vocoder FOUND!!!

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The Phat Conductor
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macIntel live vocoder FOUND!!!

Post by The Phat Conductor » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:00 am

the mda talkbox! it's about as simple as it gets and doesn't seem to be murdering my processor.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/799.html

YESS!!!!!

let the robot invasion commence!
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Post by Sten » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:59 am

These are my favorite types of posts.

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Post by nobbystylus » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:38 pm

link doesn't seem to take me to the download link.. using safari.. any ideas of a direct link?
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Post by 7G » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:03 pm

Here you go....http://www.mda-vst.com/
It's located inside the au & VST Effects menu...

Cheers!

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Post by Sten » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:06 pm

Any luck on getting this to accept midi input? I can't seem to get it

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Post by Machinate » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:45 pm

It doesn't accept midi input. It's a traditional vocoder in that you feed it two signals and it does the magic on one of them. I also think there is a little bit of documentation on their website?

Meanwhile feast your eyes on the finest vocoder ever built:
http://www.stoffelshome.de/vocoder/senn ... sm201.html
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Post by Sten » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:59 pm

Ok just figured out a workaround. MDA VocInput can track tones, so if you send a sinewave from operator into it, it will trace that note with it's modulation output, which you can then feed into talkbox. Sweet!

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Post by Machinate » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:37 pm

Sten... did you have time to read my post?

Operator->Left input of MDA talkbox
Vox -> Right input of talkbox

OR

Operator->Right input of MDA talkbox
Vox -> Left input of talkbox

.that's all it takes...
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Post by Sten » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:58 pm

I saw it, but the first signal i ran through it was a straight sinewave, which doesn't give much of an effect. So i just carried on thinking I needed to use the signal out of VocInput :p till i ran a squarewave through there and realized my mistakes. Thanks for pointing that out :)

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Post by nobbystylus » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:13 am

anybody care to send a little screen grab as how to get this working? (with a simpler as the tone source) i'm struggling with getting anything out of it..
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Post by The Phat Conductor » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:57 am

How to Set Up a Vocoder in Ableton

1. make an fx return called 'vocode'

2. put the talkbox on it

3. make a carrier (the midi part of the vocoder)


-make a midi channel with a simpler on it
-be sure to use a sound that takes up a good deal of the frequency spectrum.
-it may be a good idea to add distortion to the simpler at this point as it beefs up the harmonic range.

4. send the carrier to the vocoder

-in the i : o routing* set the simpler to send "audio to:" talkbox, and then in the next box down (underneath "audio to:") select "talkbox: carrier". the simpler will now send audio to the vocoder's carrier input.

*i : o routing = the top button of the black buttons at the bottom right of session view

5. send the channel(s) you want to vocode to the 'vocode' fx send

-send at 0db, with the send set to 'pre' (yellow/orange button on the right, horizontally aligned with the fx send knobs).
-turn the volume down so that you don't hear the raw vocal, only the vocoder

6. live vocoding

-if you want to use the vocoder with a live mic then you make an audio channel called 'mic' and (in the i : o properties) set it to take "audio from:" the mic input on your soundcard, and set it to monitoring status "in".
-yes it works with the built in mic on your laptop, just make sure to clean up the input with some eq+ whatnot before it goes to the vocoder. you don't have to worry about gating it because it will only make sound when you are playing the carrier via midi.

TaDaa!


vocode away.
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Post by nobbystylus » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:51 am

thanks pal...
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Post by oldbetseysatan » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:20 am

Not that I need to use a vocoder but...

Phat Conductor?

You're a dude!

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Post by the_viirus » Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:04 am

holy balls...this works so well....

sticky this!!!

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Post by sebovzeoueb » Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:08 am

I remember it made rather a lot of clicky noises in the high end when I used it, still it's free...
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