How to make notes repeat quickly??

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funknotik
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How to make notes repeat quickly??

Post by funknotik » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:20 am

Wondering how many different ways there are of doing the same thing. I know of beat repeat. What im looking for is a more a way of controlling the repetition of a single assigned drum sound. For example a kick, and causing it to progress from simply repeating sequentially to studdering. Only example i can give is something like a squarepusher, aphex, venetian snares. Kinda like bucephalus bouncing ball how it speeds up. Hope im explaining myself properly, i believe ive heard it reffered to as "truncating" NOt sure.!!

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Post by Marquis » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:33 am

try a "buffer override" plugin. I know there was one called "Buffer override" floating around a while back. Not sure if it's a freebie though.

I always found I lacked the control to use it properly, but that was before I discovered the joys of midi controllers or really learned how to use automation envelopes properly. Now it's easy. Bypass on, bypass off - all with a button. Lovely.

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Re: How to make notes repeat quickly??

Post by Jackal and Hyde » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:01 am

funknotik wrote:studdering. Only example i can give is something like a squarepusher, aphex, venetian snares. Kinda like bucephalus bouncing ball how it speeds up. Hope im explaining myself properly, i believe ive heard it reffered to as "truncating" NOt sure.!!
What your talking about are simply called - "Edits"


You could try what Square pusher, Aphex Twin and BT do but on Ableton. Set view from 1/16th to 1/32nd 1/32trp etc etc and Paint the notes in. Control E them, pann'em, throw velocity automation and generally make good "edits". A drum machine makes this 10 x's easier with the tap repeat button but what you can do in a DAW is obviously more advanced. Doing advanced edits used to be extremely time consuming cutting tape with razor blades and re-connecting long strings of tape... A total nightmare back then. One of the greatest original cutters whos still around is Omar Santana. But even he doesnt deal with tape anymore. Copy and pasting is the best way to get your edits real intricate and advanced. Takes time but a breeze compared to tape.

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Post by LOFA » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:29 am

I really can't wait to be good enough at max to make things like this.

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Post by stinky » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:53 am

you can use suppatrigga, or glitch (both free), but you're not going to have the control unless you do the edits yourself, like J&H said, or write your own max patch, like LOFA said..

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Post by Machinate » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:12 am

LOFA wrote:I really can't wait to be good enough at max to make things like this.
hehe, I can't wait until you find out just how easy that bocephalus bouncing ball thing is to do on a live input... it's.... ridiculously easy!
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Post by DeadlyKungFu » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:01 am

Set QUANTISE and SCENE or CLIP LAUNCH to another encoder, studder at leisure.

Or assign an encoder to LOOP LENGTH.

Bounce to another track as you tweak, grab some coffee and start editing the new track.

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Post by nobbystylus » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:27 am

Beat repeat is really the best option for 'on the fly' doing this... make sure 'repeat' is on, INS (rather than mix) and then just adjust the GRID amount to make your ball bounce at different amounts..
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Post by Clearscreen » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:28 am

http://www.heizenbox.com/

try this. it can f*ck things up real good.

also, my weapon of choice,
http://www.devine-machine.com/
and check out lucifer.
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Post by aera » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:55 am

bouncy:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1486.html

exactly what you where asking for.
bouncing ball delay.

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Post by Patch » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:02 am

There's an excellent VST effect calle "Instajungle"...

Very cool - set up different paranmeters on each of the 4 repeats, assign a different button to each of the repeats and bang away.

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Post by ILTK » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:24 pm

aera wrote:bouncy:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1486.html

exactly what you where asking for.
bouncing ball delay.
Now that's a usefull little plugin, snarerolls, hihat rolls etc.. that useually takes me goddamn ages to get right manually it just does with a few tweaks.

Sweet!

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someone recommended

Post by funknotik » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:51 pm

Someone recommended phatmatik pro and idrum. Then i found that they where for mac. I have a pc and a mac, but is there anything good for drum editing for pc??
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Post by Jesse » Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:06 am

Or you could put the drum sound in simpler, set to looping and assign a knob to the loop length...

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Post by pulsoc » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:28 am

Jesse wrote:Or you could put the drum sound in simpler, set to looping and assign a knob to the loop length...
exactly

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