Warping 4/4 Beats - when do you need actual warp markers?

[jimmymus]

I just learned how to really warp stuff today and I've found it to be pretty intuitive. The movies that are available around here are SO helpful they really deserve their own thread.

But anyway, my question is this:
I always start off obviously with a warp marker on the first beat. A green, actual warp marker. In the videos that I watched that is the ONLY real warp marker. The rest are just grid markers that they move into place.

What kind of situation would you want to make more actual warp markers (aka, double clicking on the grid marker)?

Thanks! I love Ableton so far. I just did a little jam out session and felt more productive than I have in a long time.

[cashman]

I just learned how to really warp stuff today and I've found it to be pretty intuitive. The movies that are available around here are SO helpful they really deserve their own thread.

But anyway, my question is this:
I always start off obviously with a warp marker on the first beat. A green, actual warp marker. In the videos that I watched that is the ONLY real warp marker. The rest are just grid markers that they move into place.

What kind of situation would you want to make more actual warp markers (aka, double clicking on the grid marker)?

Thanks! I love Ableton so far. I just did a little jam out session and felt more productive than I have in a long time.

Have you tried warping a non-dance (computer made) track? I recently warped 'Sympathy for the Devil' by the Rolling Stones. Have a go at doing a rock or blues tune, then you'll see the need for making warp markers.

PS. I don't mean to be difficult by not directly answering your question, but would really recommend trying out my suggestion, although given the fact you have obviously done your warping homework, it shouldn't be too hard

[Spikee]

I just learned how to really warp stuff today and I've found it to be pretty intuitive. The movies that are available around here are SO helpful they really deserve their own thread.

But anyway, my question is this:
I always start off obviously with a warp marker on the first beat. A green, actual warp marker. In the videos that I watched that is the ONLY real warp marker. The rest are just grid markers that they move into place.

What kind of situation would you want to make more actual warp markers (aka, double clicking on the grid marker)?

Thanks! I love Ableton so far. I just did a little jam out session and felt more productive than I have in a long time.

To clarify our friend above -- any electronic tune that you do will be 99.9% locked on tempo so you can trust your grid if you have it lined up right. People on the other hand are not perfect -- they slip in and out of time and even though the difference is extremely minimal, it'll make your mix FUBAR if you haven't gone through and time-corrected by adding additional warp markers to reset the beat, ya dig?

Hope that helps.

[chepnut]

I have to agree, warping current dance tracks is super easy and accurate, but when you get into older non-computer made music the beats are all over the place. Then you have to go and add warp markers to keep everything on spot for mixing.