randomization

technochris81 · Post by **technochris81** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:35 am

i really want a tab that automatically shows up at the top right of every vst that will randomize all the parameters.

does anybody know of an already existing way to do this?

-chris

dj superflat · Post by **dj superflat** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:25 pm

get reaktor.

C.S. · Post by **C.S.** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:49 pm

If you're on windows, EnergyXT can do this (and a whole lot more).

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:57 pm

dj superflat wrote:get reaktor.

or Automat

Soma · Post by **Soma** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:52 am

C.S. wrote:If you're on windows, EnergyXT can do this (and a whole lot more).

Yeah I love that feature. Every host should have it!

Soma · Post by **Soma** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:52 pm

I'd love to see some destructive randomization of midi/envelope data too!
Shuffle notes, random notes, random velocity, etc.
Live has plugins for this but some times you want to repeat the same random clip over and over without having to bounce down. Alos features that 'see into the future' or operate on selected notes, like rearrange selected notes etc would be much better implemented as a command in a clip.
Live is missig editing commands in general (besides swing and quantize).

technochris81 · Post by **technochris81** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:06 pm

will this be in live 6?

dj superflat · Post by **dj superflat** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:10 pm

raondomization is cheating, you should craft all your sounds with precision and care. indeed, it's almost as bad as using presets (sorry, couldn't resist).

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:56 am

I kinda agree with him, although I love using random but it's still alot like using presets ( in the sense that the sounds are made for you )

onarb · Post by **onarb** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:52 pm

its not cheating! its just helping us to make new sounds. you wilways have to craft after randmization, its just a quick way to go through the soundspectrums an instrument can produce.

Mike Goodwin · Post by **Mike Goodwin** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:02 pm

I take pride in designing my own sounds but if a preset is exactly what im looking for then I use it. I always feel like it is cheating but hell I bought the dam instrument for a reason.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:51 pm

AdamJay wrote:
dj superflat wrote:get reaktor.
or Automat

or Filterscape

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:59 pm

Poster wrote:
AdamJay wrote:
dj superflat wrote:get reaktor.
or Automat
or Filterscape

Nah.

Some new and/or improved features.

sine, triangle, saw, puls oscillator with much improved hard-sync option.
granulator oscillator.
wavetable oscillator with smooth blending between tables and hard-sync.
sample oscillator (sample-player) with drag and drop support of .wav and .aiff files.
stackable oscillators.
one shaper section for each oscillator with new multimode filters.
new main filter with 5 new low-pass filter modes.
spatial and delay effects parameter can now be assigned to the modulator.
micro-tonal tuning with drag and drop support of .tun files (Anamark tunings).
new fast AHDSR envelopes.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:00 pm

presets and randomizing is not even close to cheeting..

see it as this;
a preset is nothing more than a combination of positions and values you did not put together YET..

DJ-ing is cheeting..

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:04 pm

hoffman2k wrote:
Poster wrote:
AdamJay wrote: or Automat
or Filterscape
Nah.

Some new and/or improved features.

sine, triangle, saw, puls oscillator with much improved hard-sync option.
granulator oscillator.
wavetable oscillator with smooth blending between tables and hard-sync.
sample oscillator (sample-player) with drag and drop support of .wav and .aiff files.
stackable oscillators.
one shaper section for each oscillator with new multimode filters.
new main filter with 5 new low-pass filter modes.
spatial and delay effects parameter can now be assigned to the modulator.
micro-tonal tuning with drag and drop support of .tun files (Anamark tunings).
new fast AHDSR envelopes.

thanks.. didn't know there was a new version out..
curious about the grain osc.. sounds nice..
btw.. those dials would be classified as 'stealing'