Syncing Ableton with CDJs?

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Prism
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Syncing Ableton with CDJs?

Post by Prism » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:05 am

Hello, I could not find any info on how to sync loops in Ableton from a CDJ sampled with and EFX-1000. Can this be achieved with Firewire 1814 its word clock?

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I am aware of Soundbite's Micro that's coming out soon to allow us to sync Ableton to external gear. Looking at the image I see its MIDI in and OUT are the same as on Firewire's 1814 word clock to digital connector



What other methods are there for sync Ableton to CDJs and EFX-1000?

Thank you

luke_l
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Re: Syncing Ableton with CDJs?

Post by luke_l » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:31 am

Prism wrote:
What other methods are there for sync Ableton to CDJs and EFX-1000?
Tap Tempo. Works for me with my 1210s.
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Robert Henke
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Post by Robert Henke » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:27 am

There is two meanings of the word "sync" here.

If you want to connect a digital output of one source ( say: the digital out of a CD player ) with a digital input of another source ( say your M-Audio soundcard) you need to make sure the input can follow the output. This can either be done by "slaving" the input ( soundcard and computer ) to follow all moves of the output ( CD player ) or by having a reference somewhere providing a "clock" and this reference distributes this clock to all other digitally connected units. This can be done by various ways, one way is that mysterious "word clock" connector.

Imagine Digital audio as single packets handled from on person to another.
Each time you handle a packet over you need the other person to receive it. If the other person is not ready, just drop that packet on the floor, so all the glases will break. This is what happens if you connect two digital units and they are not in sync.
Sound can vary from slightly strange to completly unpleasant.

However, this has nothing to do with beat matching, which means bringing two grooves well... in sync....

I am to lazy now for elaborating this part of the story, maybe someone else here will chime in, just wanted to point out that there are two different things here.

Try searching the forum for "tap tempo" "external MIDI clock" "beat matching" "syncing two Lives together" ... and you should find answers

Robert

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Post by Honey » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:48 pm

interesting & thanks for the sync viepoint

so to sync these units for clean digital sound you would either have the CDJ sending the soundcard MIDI sync or all the devices on word clock with the CDJ set as master & other devices as slaves?

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