Monetizing Your Music - How Do You Do It?

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Monetizing Your Music - How Do You Do It?

Post by psilopsyche » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:02 pm

Hey everyone. :)

I will be starting my musical beginnings this week, and I was wondering about how you musicians by trade do financially. Obviously there are huge differences in how much various artists make, but I have no idea whatsoever what a musician makes who performs live.

How much would you make, say... if you filled a club with 30-60 people?
How much would you make if you performed at something like Burning Man?
How do you make a living in general?

Thank you very much!

-psilo
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Post by Sales Dude McBoob » Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:59 pm

I make about -10k a year
8O

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Post by psilopsyche » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:03 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:I make about -10k a year
8O
lmao. That's kind of bad...
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Post by Fizmarble » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:48 pm

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:I make about -10k a year
8O
I am sad for you.

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Post by pulsoc » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:52 pm

Hey Psilo - when you figure it out can you let me know?

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Re: Monetizing Your Music - How Do You Do It?

Post by Fizmarble » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:04 pm

psilopsyche wrote:Hey everyone. :)

I will be starting my musical beginnings this week, and I was wondering about how you musicians by trade do financially. Obviously there are huge differences in how much various artists make, but I have no idea whatsoever what a musician makes who performs live.

How much would you make, say... if you filled a club with 30-60 people?
How much would you make if you performed at something like Burning Man?
How do you make a living in general?

Thank you very much!

-psilo
I play acoustic music for various bars and restaurants in my area, Monterey County, California, and we get 250 to 350 a night and the music scene here sucks. I imagine if we were playing some place that people gave a crap, we would make 500 a night, but I am not sure. We are blessed to have a decent reputation around here. As far as I am concerned, if you are bringing in 30-60 people, and they are drinking, that is worth something. If you are bringing in people and they are paying at the door, you deserve a cut or something proportional. If you are playing for whoever happens to be there, then you deserve the going rate for live musical entertainment in your area. Not all places will pay though. Some think they are doing you a favor by letting you play there.

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Re: Monetizing Your Music - How Do You Do It?

Post by psilopsyche » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:13 pm

Fizmarble wrote:
I play acoustic music for various bars and restaurants in my area, Monterey County, California, and we get 250 to 350 a night and the music scene here sucks. I imagine if we were playing some place that people gave a crap, we would make 500 a night, but I am not sure. We are blessed to have a decent reputation around here. As far as I am concerned, if you are bringing in 30-60 people, and they are drinking, that is worth something. If you are bringing in people and they are paying at the door, you deserve a cut or something proportional. If you are playing for whoever happens to be there, then you deserve the going rate for live musical entertainment in your area. Not all places will pay though. Some think they are doing you a favor by letting you play there.
Thanks for the input, it really helps.
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Post by Fizmarble » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:16 pm

Sure, any other questions let me have em.

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Post by melocoton » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:04 am

The "Monetize" button is scheduled for release with Live 7.

Can you make money performing at Burning Man? I thought money wasn't allowed there or something.

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Post by Tarekith » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:15 am

Pretty sure burning man money is some sea shells and/or hemp rope.

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Post by Fizmarble » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:12 am

Tarekith wrote:Pretty sure burning man money is some sea shells and/or hemp rope.
Props for making me smile and make a humph sound sort of laugh.

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Post by paddypaws » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:17 am

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:I make about -10k a year
8O
yes, but are you happy..bet you are
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Re: Monetizing Your Music - How Do You Do It?

Post by forge » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:04 am

Fizmarble wrote:[
-psilo

I play acoustic music for various bars and restaurants in my area, Monterey County, California, and we get 250 to 350 a night and the music scene here sucks. I imagine if we were playing some place that people gave a crap, we would make 500 a night, but I am not sure. We are blessed to have a decent reputation around here. As far as I am concerned, if you are bringing in 30-60 people, and they are drinking, that is worth something. If you are bringing in people and they are paying at the door, you deserve a cut or something proportional. If you are playing for whoever happens to be there, then you deserve the going rate for live musical entertainment in your area. Not all places will pay though. Some think they are doing you a favor by letting you play there.
My missus is basically the same - and really the money she gets is pretty good for the hours she does - she often complains about the gigs but I have to remind her of the shit I had to do in my last full time job where I got for a whole week what she gets in 2 gigs and she can sort her own tax out and get the perks that come with that while half of mine was taken awy by tax and pension and shit

sadly it often means not playing your ideal music to make money, but I definitely think the only way to make a living in music any more is playing live

the days of big advances for house tunes are gone unless you're already well established

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Music - Money ?

Post by Hoitabuam » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:34 am

Hi psilo,
same topic - different approach: Look for example at the video of Shawn Pelton (downloads). Live's in the background, is the tool to bring "new ideas" to live. So if you have some ideas, try to make some interesting noise for the croud. We do "very" traditional folk music with live as "backbone" - sounds funny. Ok you have to travel around but you get up to 1500 per gig (4 Persons).
Regards from Martin

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Post by Smashed Hat » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:11 pm

I have been known to do gigs for "ale and stuff" :P , although I do have a wanky dayjob that pays well and keeps the bailiffs from the door. :roll:
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