battery 3

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:49 pm

yes,it looks very cool,but do you think its a must now that we have the racks?im so tempted,but i just bought sampler, which im loving.anyone here definately buying battery 3 then.if it had a little seq.on it like redrum then i would buy it in a second.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:00 pm

Well I'm not exactly buying it, but I am getting it from my komplete care 2006, which upgrades my komplete 3 to komplete 4 for free (

), and I am very stoked about it!

Having distortion, compression, delay and reverb per channel is awesome. Means I can keep everything in one interface without a bunch of routing. Having convolution is great too.

Another thing I like about having it in a separate window is that you can see your drum parameters at the same time as your sequence, and you can hit a pad to remind what sound was on what note. With impulse, you can't see the device at the same time as the midi sequence.

You can get the same results with racks pretty much, it just depends how you like to work.

grb

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:04 pm

I just bought battery two upgrade about three weeks ago.

N.I. sent me an email offering the batter3 upgrade for just 59.00.

so i jumped

It seems like a good deal.

I have benn using battery since it was loopzilla

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:51 am

i had battery,so maybe i will get some sort of break on it.it comes with a shitload of samples as well.

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:20 am

john gordon wrote:i had battery,so maybe i will get some sort of break on it.it comes with a shitload of samples as well.

infact a metric shit ton of samples

LiveXXX · Post by **LiveXXX** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:15 am

Question... I have lots of kits on my Battery 2 folder and everytime I load a project that uses Battery it takes a while to load.. I even get a progess bar...

Does this happen to you to?

Thank for the info.

zazamoth · Post by **zazamoth** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:57 am

LiveXXX wrote:Question... I have lots of kits on my Battery 2 folder and everytime I load a project that uses Battery it takes a while to load.. I even get a progess bar...

Does this happen to you to?

Thank for the info.

yeah, mostly with the big kits such as the full Orch...so if you are running a heavy mix..don't even think of loading something like that in to your project. ..(you probably know that)..but i wish someone had told me that at first..talk about panic

And yes I AM getting Battery 3..and the Alesis pad control..ohhhh drool
i have plans for Battery3<- insert evil laugh

GaryTracks · Post by **GaryTracks** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:29 pm

Question... I have lots of kits on my Battery 2 folder and everytime I load a project that uses Battery it takes a while to load.. I even get a progess bar...

Does this happen to you to?

There was some kind of bug before the recent software update for Battery 2. I have a big default kit, it would take 45+ seconds to load just the kit.

After the update, voila! It took maybe 15 seconds to load.
That lasted a month or two, now it's back to 45 seconds. I don't get it.

I believe it had something to do with the default kit file path. But i don't understand how a fixed bug can get buggy again.

Another thing thats weird is how, for each Live set, there seems to be a separate Battery kit file stored. If i edit the kit, it is for that Live set only, it doesnt effect the kit in the Battery library, and vice versa. When I save the Live set, it saves that version of the kit. I have never found any evidence of these ghost kit files in any directories. If i go into that kit within the Live set and save it specifically, then it writes to the Battery library.

Matbe this is standard for VST's. This is the only one i use.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:03 pm

GaryTracks wrote:
Question... I have lots of kits on my Battery 2 folder and everytime I load a project that uses Battery it takes a while to load.. I even get a progess bar...

Does this happen to you to?
There was some kind of bug before the recent software update for Battery 2. I have a big default kit, it would take 45+ seconds to load just the kit.

After the update, voila! It took maybe 15 seconds to load.
That lasted a month or two, now it's back to 45 seconds. I don't get it.

I believe it had something to do with the default kit file path. But i don't understand how a fixed bug can get buggy again.

Another thing thats weird is how, for each Live set, there seems to be a separate Battery kit file stored. If i edit the kit, it is for that Live set only, it doesnt effect the kit in the Battery library, and vice versa. When I save the Live set, it saves that version of the kit. I have never found any evidence of these ghost kit files in any directories. If i go into that kit within the Live set and save it specifically, then it writes to the Battery library.

Matbe this is standard for VST's. This is the only one i use.

Yes, hosts will generally remember the settings of plug-ins when you save the song, without needing to save the plug-in patch. This goes for synths, samplers or whatever. A new kit is not saved anywhere when you save the song, the settings are just maintained. That includes what sample is "in" a cell. The sample isn't actually loaded into a kit, it merely references a location of a sample on your hardrive, and as long as that sample is in the same place, it will load again without having to be saved with the samples. The original kit still references whatever samples the kit was saved with.

Hope that makes sense,

grb

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:17 pm

I stopped using Battery II because it would always "forget" the EQ and comp settings whenever I loaded it up.

I mean, EVERY time. I would save the kit - I would save the live set with the newly saved kit in it - and when I re-opened it, all my eq and comp settings were restored to defaults.

What a pain. I gave up.

Has this been rectified in Battery III? Cause if not, I'm selling my licenses to all my NI products and just sticking with Live's internal stuff.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:36 pm

Rogue Scrunt wrote:
john gordon wrote:i had battery,so maybe i will get some sort of break on it.it comes with a shitload of samples as well.
infact a metric shit ton of samples

no, you're wrong

it comes with a metric shit ton of samples to the cube power all to the quad power plus 1

i.e.

basically, more samples than people in China

Battery is always a good bet - people rarely are disappointed in the app - lots of quality samples, does what it says its suppose to and is supper easy to use, navigate and create

I'm getting it

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:39 pm

djadonis206 wrote: - people rarely are disappointed in the app.

nevermind - just re read the thread

ooppps

I've never had any problems with battery

CronoDL · Post by **CronoDL** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:20 pm

M. Bréqs, that was a problem that really bugged me too. But when NI came out with the latest update for Battery 2 (2.1.5, I believe) it fixed the problem.

But what sucked was that the fix only came a few weeks before the announcement of Battery 3. Oh well, the racks in Live 6 makes it easier to put together kits and sounds, so I don't think I need Battery 3. Also, I don't know what kind of bugs B3 will have, and it will probably take forever to get fixed too.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:14 am

Thing about using racks though, is that you still need to output to several tracks to use send effects like reverb/delay. It's nice that battery has sends per cell, not to mention compression, eq, looping within the sample etc.

And like I said, having the window floating (and customizable) is a big plus for me.

Oh and also, the new articulations look really cool! Flams, midi echo, pushing/lagging hits, etc. This rocks. I think there might be some resample thing too. or am I imagining that?....

I can't wait.

grb

CronoDL · Post by **CronoDL** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:51 am

With the racks, I set up sub-racks for the snare, kick, etc. And I use several instances of Simpler instead of Impulse, so I can easily layer hits. So the snare is in its own subrack, and if I want reverb/delay on only the snare, I just add it to the end of the snare sub-rack.

And so far, I do have one instance of Impulse in the rack, so I can use the choke on the hi-hats.

The racks make it easy to rename the notes in the midi editor too, so that's a plus.

But of course, I just paid for the Live upgrade, and I would rather not pay again to upgrade another program if it can be helped.