Minimal Kick Drum

eturnol · Post by **eturnol** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:23 pm

Hi,

How do i get that nice minimal kick drum sound found in minimal techno? it usually sounds softer and more like a lump than a thump.

Is there a certain amount of compression they use? do they eq it in a certain way? is it a layering (i actually don't think it's this, because the kicks often sound the same from song to song and from artist to artist). do they slip edit the beggining thump portion of the kick?

my kick drums usually sound harder, like the usual 909 kick drum found in progressive music. please let me know...

ben

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:30 pm

compressed 808 kick
tighten up the decay.

So Solid Poo · Post by **So Solid Poo** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:33 pm

'da fuk iz an 808?

Goran@Irrupt · Post by **Goran@Irrupt** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:38 pm

So Solid Poo wrote:'da fuk iz an 808?

whoo... wrong question dude...

w

Goran@Irrupt · Post by **Goran@Irrupt** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:45 pm

i think that Waldorf Attack VST will do the trick.
it lacks low freq's by default.

w

So Solid Poo · Post by **So Solid Poo** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:47 pm

'da fuk iz waldorf attak?

CaseyDC · Post by **CaseyDC** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:48 pm

So Solid Poo wrote:'da fuk iz an 808?

and you are hip hop?

Klinikal · Post by **Klinikal** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:17 pm

WebSite! wrote:i think that Waldorf Attack VST will do the trick.
it lacks low freq's by default.

w

+1

Try MicroTonic also.

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eturnol · Post by **eturnol** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:27 pm

hey adam jay...i have a 909, which i believe can do the 808 style kick.

does the 808 kick have a slightly longer attack time, to give that duller lump sound?

there's no eqing involved? i would think you would want to round off the highs to get rid of the pop associated with the 909, leaving only the dull thump behind.

what kind of compression do you usually use? 20 ms attack and 50 - 100 ms decay with a ratio of 1:5?
or is the attack shorter?

Audio Soundation · Post by **Audio Soundation** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:38 pm

speaking of 808/909... where can i get quality 808/909 samples?

Audio Soundation · Post by **Audio Soundation** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:44 pm

eturnol wrote:hey adam jay...i have a 909, which i believe can do the 808 style kick.

does the 808 kick have a slightly longer attack time, to give that duller lump sound?

there's no eqing involved? i would think you would want to round off the highs to get rid of the pop associated with the 909, leaving only the dull thump behind.

what kind of compression do you usually use? 20 ms attack and 50 - 100 ms decay with a ratio of 1:5?
or is the attack shorter?

eqing the kick initially will take from the initial integrity of the kick...

wouldnt it be better to scoop out the higher freq with a filter and layer the kick over another 808 with a slightly longer decay?... just a thought. this is how i build my kicks normally... oh and dont forget your compression. when your close to the final sound you want for your kick i would then start trying to eq it to get it just right.

Adonis · Post by **Adonis** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:48 pm

Audio Soundation wrote:speaking of 808/909... where can i get quality 808/909 samples?

http://hollowsun.com/

peace

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Adonis · Post by **Adonis** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:49 pm

the free shit is on this link

http://hollowsun.com/downloads/index.html

*edit* I don't know how much of that sutff is free anymore

when I got my 1000 a few years ago they were giving all these classic drum kits away - I donwloaded them all and referenced them on forums for a minute as well

after going to follow up on my sources looks like a lot of that shit is not for free anymore - so sorry about that

Audio Soundation · Post by **Audio Soundation** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:57 pm

Adonis wrote:the free shit is on this link

http://hollowsun.com/downloads/index.html

*edit* I don't know how much of that sutff is free anymore

when I got my 1000 a few years ago they were giving all these classic drum kits away - I donwloaded them all and referenced them on forums for a minute as well

after going to follow up on my sources looks like a lot of that shit is not for free anymore - so sorry about that

well you could always be really really nice and send me an email with a sweet lil attatchment.

Adonis · Post by **Adonis** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:02 pm

just sent you a PM